I predict that the defensive drop off with Rudy off the floor will be less than last year. Because first team defense has dropped (minus DFav) and Ed Davis is an excellent defender. A big who can switch.
We signed Emmanuel Mudiay
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I predict that the defensive drop off with Rudy off the floor will be less than last year. Because first team defense has dropped (minus DFav) and Ed Davis is an excellent defender. A big who can switch.
homeytennis
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I don't get the development program. Who have we developed? Spidy came to us ready minted. Every two way player we have had we've run off. Maybe Royce? Ask Cooley and Cotton about our development program. Ask Neto.
Royce, definitely, and Ingles, but I would also think Neto should count. He's carved out an NBA career for himself.
Umm. Gordon ****ing Hayward? George Hill. You can’t claim a ****ing thing about the 13th pick in the draft. Ingles is an absolutely obvious and stellar example.
Game6Conley
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Hands-down, no contest.Developing 5s historically takes a good bit longer than the other 4 positions as well.
Regarding development, I think there is a portion that is “increasing your market value”. If Mudiay plays in a well structured system, and ends up with attractive stats, then other teams see he’s a worthy investment.
Also, Watching the videos in this thread, many of Mudiay’s highlights are tough shots, buzzer beaters, and such. And on a couple of occasions, the announce is saying “Mudiay was 5 for 24 before that shot”. (And Similar). So I think Mudiay market value goes up if he just plays system ball and proves he can be a reasonable asset instead of the “chucker on the crappiest team in the league”.
Also, Watching the videos in this thread, many of Mudiay’s highlights are tough shots, buzzer beaters, and such. And on a couple of occasions, the announce is saying “Mudiay was 5 for 24 before that shot”. (And Similar). So I think Mudiay market value goes up if he just plays system ball and proves he can be a reasonable asset instead of the “chucker on the crappiest team in the league”.
Jack Strop
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You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Players like Cotton, Cooley, Motum, etc. weren't going to develop into NBA material.
Spidey you can chalk up to personal work ethic. But he's a much better player than he was on Day1. How much credit can you give to Quin and his staff? I know they worked with him on different types of shots. Hayward, Gobert and Ingles are prime examples of guys who really improved their games. Not sure why you said Nyet to Neto. He's a much better player now. O'Neale of course. Derrick Favors.
Maybe the current Jazz org gets credited perception-wise for past successes like Millsap, DeMarre Carroll, Matthews, Boozer, Okur. And remember right after Rubio got traded he said something like he had had more conversations with Quinn then in his previous seasons combined? So it's not only development; it's that the staff WILL invest the time if you invest the effort.
Yes, there have been failures such as Burke and Lyles. And I'm in the camp that thinks our player development IS overstated. Every team tries to develop their players. And if they don't, they're probably one of the perennial lottery teams. But if the perception is there with some GM's and players, let's keep milking it,
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Not sure if you are kidding.
Watch Neto tapes from a few years ago. And he’s a 2nd round pick who is backup PG for an NBA playoff team. That is success.
Hayward Gobert Favors Ingles Royce.
Cooley and Cotton did not have NBA potential or physical attributes. Jazz can’t turn coal into diamonds
homeytennis
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Cotton dropped 31 points on the Nuggs this preseason in a game the Nuggs barely won.
I guess our development program worked.
You felt that rookie Joe was lighting up the NBA?
MVP
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Bump
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Keefe
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Gobert. Hayward. Royce. Ingles. Maybe Mudiay. And that’s not even counting Mitchell who apparently came to us “ready minted,” only 12 other teams somehow didn’t see this.
@freakazoid is an absolute clown-boner.Bump
homeytennis
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Quin now has some options with Tucker and Clarkson. At least the bench ought to be able to score a little now.
yamers
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Could it also be hes better than conley? Can move on defense as well?!
