jazzrule
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Yawn, is that the great One Brow accusing others of trolling again. Liberals love to accuse others with what they do.
Why the democratic party is in trouble
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jazzrule
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Wow, how many is he drawing in 2019, and outside of the liberal strongholds like California?
One Brow
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I think you for demonstrating, yet again, what has become a standard right-wing tactic: engage in behavior, than accuse other people of it to try to make it seem like both sides engage in it. Out side of that, just troll better.
jazzrule
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The mail and road systems, socialist ideas, plays a significant role in the rise of America. I agree that they are worth talking about.
Yup, he and his god fearing followers,
The most evangelical group in the US, African Americans, overwhelming vote democrat.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...an-overall-public-to-be-christian-protestant/
I’m short, God loves socialism.
You should keep up with your own self proclaimed stances. You must be a lying, god and America hating communist. Only they would mess this up
Go back to Russia you bot.
Troll or bot which am I? I get so confused. Let me explain it so even someone like Stoked can understand it. We come to the earth to get a body and to prove ourselves that we are worthy to return to live with Heavenly Father for eternity. There is a war going on for the souls of mankind. Part of our test is to see which side we will choose in life. Believing God or be a follower of the deceiver Satan are your choices. Which party wants to take down crosses, take the pledge of allegiance out of schools, wants to remove In God We Trust off of our money, wants to get rid of Ice and now wants to get rid of Home Land Security entirely? Now don't get me wrong there is plenty wrong with our party as well. There are Satan followers on both sides of the aisle. Now ask yourself how can Satan get more control of the people? A global one world government is how, which party is following that path and which is for keeping America out of the one world government? But don't worry your side wins, that is for a while they win. But you will lose when Christ returns at the battle of Armageddon, which occurs in a valley outside of Jerusalem. Armies from multiple countries (you can learn which reading the bible and searching the modern countries by their old biblical history names) will have had Jerusalem under siege for 3 and 1/2 years. Let me give you a head start with your research 2 of the countries sending armies against Israel are Iran and Turkey heard those in the news recently? The scriptures also tell us straight is the path and narrow is the gate and few be that find it. There are 3 main kingdoms in heaven the Telestrial, Terrestrial and the Celestial, but there are different levels within each. Most of you after paying for your sins will be in the Telestrial Kingdom for eternity. The bible tells us the number there with be like the stars in heaven (lots of them). Those good people that believe in God but are kept from the truth by the cunning ideas of man will make the middle kingdom or Telestial (represented by the moons). Those that find the truth and live it on earth will inherit the Celestial Kingdom (represented by the suns- not many of them). Those that inherit the Celestial Kingdom will live with their Heavenly Father and Mother and will have joy every moment of every day for eternity. The battle rages on for the souls of man God vs. Satan. Are you ready for Christ return to start the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth? Now go ahead call me a bot, troll, bird s**t or any of the other things you call me on here, but remember what you do, think and say are recorded in heaven, and will determine where you spend eternity.
Zombie
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What the ****.
jazzrule
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Way to go Zombie is the truth too deep for you? Your book in heaven just got another bad mark. Wishing you the best.
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Keefe
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Tldnr
I’m not reading that. One it is probably drivel based on your specific earlier posts. Two it’s not presented in any format encouraging reading.
Zombie
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Oh no.
I feel like there's a shortage of left wing trolls on this site.
Why do the righties get to have all the fun
Left wing trolls sure.
We have right wing trolls and left wing demagogues. It tends to balance itself out lol.
If you think Allah can cure all how do you explain these things...
1. There are errors in the Book of Mormon that are also contained in the 1769 (circa Joseph’s family) edition of the Bible.
2. DNA analysis has concluded that Native American Indians do not originate from the Middle East or from Israelites but from Asia.
3. There are things in the Book of Mormon that didn’t exist during Book of Mormon times in that area. E.G. Horses, chariots, goats, elephants, wheat, and steel.
4. There is absolutely no archeological evidence for the millions of Nephites and Lamanites/their steel swords etc, even though we have archeological evidence from smaller groups of people who existed thousands of years before.
5. Book of Mormon names and places are strikingly similar (or identical) to many local names and places of the region Joseph Smith lived in.
6. The Book of Mormon is suspiciously similar to View of the Hebrews, a book published in Joseph Smith’s area in his time. It is also very similar to The First Book of Napoleon (published 1809), and The Late War, a textbook written in King James style language for New York State School children in Joseph’s time.
7. The original 1830 text of The Book of Mormon had a trinitarian view of the Godhead, and was changed over time as Joseph’s ideas about the Godhead evolved. (Over 100,000 changes have been made to the book.)
8. There were over 4 different First Vision accounts given by Joseph at different times, at least one of which didn’t even include God or Christ.
9. Scholars have translated the papyri Joseph claimed the Book of Abraham was translated from and found that they have nothing to do with Abraham or anything contained in the book. The church now tries to claim that “translate” meant “get inspiration from”.
10. Joseph penciled in some parts of the papyri.
11. Joseph married 34+ women, many without Emma’s consent (as forbidden in D&C 132) and 11 who were already married (some without their husbands knowing).
12. 10 of Joseph’s wives were teenagers, some as young as 14. This was shocking even by 19th century standards.
13. President Hinckley publicly said polygamy isn’t doctrinal; numerous early church leaders, including Brigham Young, taught that it was essential for exaltation.
14. The only scriptural justification for polygamy is “to multiply and replenish the earth”. So either Joseph was sleeping with his 14-year-old wives, or he wasn’t adhering to scriptural laws.
15. Joseph married Fanny Alger years before he had the sealing power.
16. Joseph married some of his foster daughters.
17. Brigham Young taught Adam-God theory, which is now disavowed by the church, at general conference and as part of the temple endowment ceremony.
18. Brigham Young taught blood atonement, now also disavowed.
19. Black people weren’t allowed to hold the priesthood until the 70s. Joseph gave it to a few people, but from Brigham to Spencer they were deemed unworthy to hold it. Apparently God changed His mind.
20. In the 1980s, the church paid around $900,000 to suppress bizarre and embarrassing church history documents. These documents were later proven to be fake. Mark Hofman, the conman, turned out to be a murderer. Before the documents were known to be forgeries, church leaders gave talks offering explanations for them.
21. Joseph Smith began translating fake plates called the Kinderhook Plates. He claimed they were historical.
22. Every spin-off of the LDS church also has members say that they “know” their church is the true church. Other religions, such as Islam, say they “know through the power of God”, including the Heaven’s Gate cult.
23. Joseph sent Oliver and Hyrum to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon in Canada, saying he received a revelation to do it. They failed.
24. The church teaches that you should bear your testimony in order to gain one. This is a classic psychological tactic.
25. You can feel the spirit doing a multitude of things that have nothing to do with the gospel, like watching Saving Private Ryan.
26. Joseph and Oliver receiving “the priesthood” is very suspicious, as they didn’t tell people until years later and changed earlier revelations to match their new accounts.
27. Joseph used the seer stone to find people “buried treasure”, for which he was taken to court on charges of fraud.
28. People at Joseph’s time had a “magical worldview”, which included seeing things “with spiritual eyes” (like the gold plates).
29. Martin Harris was known as a gullible man. He was deeply financially invested in the Book of Mormon as he mortgaged his farm to finance it. Even after becoming Mormon, he was a witness to self-proclaimed prophet, James Strang, for whom he went on a mission. Strang also said he had brass plates and used a Urim and Thummin to translate them. His witnesses also never denied that Strang’s scripture was true.
Martin Harris testified and witnessed for several other religions, and also said that he had as much evidence for a Shaker book as he had The Book of Mormon. (He also said he saw Christ in the form of a deer and talked with him…so there’s that. )
30. David Whitmer said he saw an angel with his spiritual eyes, and said his impressions were just like those of a Methodist having happy feelings.
31. People in Joseph’s time believed in “second sight” (imagination) and that it was no different to seeing something with your physical eyes.
32. The witnesses did not sign their own signatures or write their own accounts (except Oliver, who was the scribe).
33. All of the Book of Mormon witnesses, except for Martin Harris, were related by blood or marriage to the Smiths or the Whitmers.
34. Joseph had many people sign an affidavit saying he wasn’t practicing polygamy when he was. Some of those who signed it were also practicing polygamy.
35. Joseph didn’t even use the would-have-weighed-around-200 pounds plates to translate the Book of Mormon. He also couldn’t retranslate the missing 116 pages, “lost” by Martin Harris’ wife to test Joseph’s validity as a translator.
36. Joseph started the LDS temple endowment just 7 weeks after his Masonic initiation. Coincidentally, the endowment ceremony is nearly identical to the Masonic ceremony in numerous ways.
37. It is a myth that the Mason temple ceremony has roots going back to the temple of Solomon.
38. The temple ceremony was supposed to be eternal, yet blood oaths and other disturbing elements were removed after a survey in the 80s revealed that church members were uncomfortable with them.
39. If Adam and Eve are the first humans, how do we explain the 14 other Hominin species who lived and died 35,000 – 250,000 years before Adam?
40. Science has proven that there was no worldwide flood 4,500 years ago.
41. Simple mathematics and logic of animal food consumption show that there was insufficient room on the ark to house all the animal species found on the planet, let alone the food required to feed all of them.
42. Science also discredits the idea of the Tower of Babel, 600-year-old humans, Jonah and the Whale, people turning into salt, and carrying honey bees across the ocean.
43. God seems really mean and radically different in the Old Testament.
44. The church has whitewashed its history and been dishonest on numerous occasions.
45. Zina Diantha Huntington Young, who became the General Relief Society President, was already married and 6 months pregnant when Joseph married her because his life was allegedly in danger from the angel with a flaming sword. After Joseph died, she married Brigham. Her biographical page on LDS.org does not state that she was married to Joseph, though it shows up on FamilySearch.org.
46. The church is not transparent about its finances anymore.
47. The church spent 1.5 billion dollars on City Creek Mall, more than it spent on humanitarian aid in almost 20 years. As the ribbon was cut at the opening ceremony, Thomas S. Monson said “Let’s go shopping!”.
48. The earlier church taught that tithing was 10% of your surplus; the church now teaches that it is 10% of your income, even if you can’t afford to pay your bills because of it.
49. The church’s name has changed a few times.
50. Church leaders such as Boyd K. Packer have warned historians about not telling too much of the truth if it isn’t faith-promoting.
51. The church teaches that the prophet can’t lead you astray, though this is a.) pretty obviously not true, and b.) not in line with things Joseph and others said.
52. Dallin H. Oaks said you shouldn’t criticize church leaders, even if the criticism is true.
53. In 1993, 6 scholars were excommunicated/disfellowshipped for publishing their scholarly research on Mormonism and its leaders.
About 10 seconds. I totally agree with you, but this nut-job got on my nerves for using religion as a reason to not worry about what is going on in the world (hypocritically D&C 101:16 is my favorite verse).
Eh, fair enough lol
As relevant as this is, I love laughing at other religious people when they very seriously state to me the reason they have an issue with the LDS faith is "because it's not true, you can prove it's not true." I'm like, okay, so how can you believe in your church? Well that's different... I'm like, ahhhh, ahhhh, ehhhh, okay moving on.
jazzrule
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Tldnr is that how you do it Wes?
Hotdog
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I feel like there's a shortage of left wing trolls on this site.
Why do the righties get to have all the fun
It is true though.
Somehow the dynamic has flipped. The right is now the counter culture while the left has become the strict unfunny puritans. The left is now the uptight taking everything too serious nerds.