Trump abandons Kurdish allies to Turkish invasion

Jazzta said:

Nice assessment, if not for two big contradictions that I spotted. Attacking Russia isn’t exactly not escalating to nuclear holocaust. You loosely say that Obama should’ve done this.

And, give Trump more time? More time to protect the Saudi family, to steal more natural resources from other countries, mainly oil? How many of those interventions were constitutional, had been approved by Congress? Enough, bring the troops home, in a safely manner, back to their families.

It sounds to me that you like misery. same as when you wished us all to be victims of an economic collapse.

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You misread (again) three things.

#1 Attacking Russia. Never did I advocate for that. I do believe we should have stood up to them by defending our ally, Ukraine. Defending Ukraine is not the same as attacking Russia.
#2 I admitted there's plenty of negative with Trump. I didn't want to assess his foreign policy overall since he's still in office. Not sure how you missed that.
#3 Never have I wished economic harm on anyone. I do wish that people receive what they've voted for. If they voted for bad policies then they deserve bad results. Example 1: I don't believe we should be bailing out farmers so we can carry on a losing trade war. If this continues then how will we ever correct bad policies? Example 2: A few years ago Alabama passed strict anti-immigrant labor laws. The result? Millions were lost in economic output because no one was there to work the fields. Produce was left rotting on the vince. Because farmers suffered economic loss and consumers paid for higher prices, these laws were repealed.

Apparently I'm now the "radical conservative" on this board who believes that some personal accountability is a good thing.

Funny how Trump has changed so many of you.

The Thriller said:

You misread (again) three things.

#1 Attacking Russia. Never did I advocate for that. I do believe we should have stood up to them by defending our ally, Ukraine. Defending Ukraine is not the same as attacking Russia.
#2 I admitted there's plenty of negative with Trump. I didn't want to assess his foreign policy overall since he's still in office. Not sure how you missed that.
#3 Never have I wished economic harm on anyone. I do wish that people receive what they've voted for. If they voted for bad policies then they deserve bad results. Example 1: I don't believe we should be bailing out farmers so we can carry on a losing trade war. If this continues then how will we ever correct bad policies? Example 2: A few years ago Alabama passed strict anti-immigrant labor laws. The result? Millions were lost in economic output because no one was there to work the fields. Produce was left rotting on the vince. Because farmers suffered economic loss and consumers paid for higher prices, these laws were repealed.

Apparently I'm now the "radical conservative" on this board who believes that some personal accountability is a good thing.

Funny how Trump has changed so many of you.

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Trump hasn’t changed me, rest assured.

Stoked said:

except they aren’t stopping you from spouting your nonsense. They’re just refusing to listen. Something that has been practiced for a long, long time.

Don’t like being ignored? Don’t say things that will get you ignored.

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You ignored my question. Why don't we on this forum have an ignore button that will screen out stuff we're not, personally and individually, interested in. It's a great idea. It will save everyone a lot of time and annoyment.

People who come around to brag about having me on ignore, like the imbecilic fake royalty that goes by what's his name.... what was it.... my memory fades..... isn't it Sir Chick-a-holic. are just indulging in a form of personal attack of extreme poor breeding.

babe said:

You ignored my question. Why don't we on this forum have an ignore button that will screen out stuff we're not, personally and individually, interested in. It's a great idea. It will save everyone a lot of time and annoyment.

People who come around to brag about having me on ignore, like the imbecilic fake royalty that goes by what's his name.... what was it.... my memory fades..... isn't it Sir Chick-a-holic. are just indulging in a form of personal attack of extreme poor breeding.

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lmfao

So we'll abandon our allies and put captured ISIS soldiers soldiers at risk, but we'd better make sure those oil fields stay safe!

Zombie said:

So we'll abandon our allies and put captured ISIS soldiers soldiers at risk, but we'd better make sure those oil fields stay safe!

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It’s ****ing madness, Russia and US troops will be at the brink of confrontation. Hadn’t we become energy independent Trump?

Jazzta said:

It’s ****ing madness, Russia and US troops will be at the brink of confrontation. Hadn’t we become energy independent Trump?

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I believe we are a net energy exporter, but still a net oil importer.

One Brow said:

I believe we are a net energy exporter, but still a net oil importer.

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Does that justify the deployment of troops in Syria, risking a direct confrontation with Russia? We losing our minds I tell you...

Why is this seen by some people as being confrontational to Russia and not Russia using our forces to protect oil fields that they’ll largely benefit from? When has Trump ever stood up to Putin? When hasn’t he capitulated to him?

One Brow said:

I believe we are a net energy exporter, but still a net oil importer.

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Energy and oil are not synonymous. I think you already knew that but for those reading this thread I think it’s an important point to emphasize.

Jazzta said:

Does that justify the deployment of troops in Syria, risking a direct confrontation with Russia?

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That wasn't the question I was answering.

Stoked said:

except they aren’t stopping you from spouting your nonsense. They’re just refusing to listen. Something that has been practiced for a long, long time.

Don’t like being ignored? Don’t say things that will get you ignored.

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So you were another victim of the brain-snatchers in JFC.


And as a modstapo officer retired, you must be having some senior moments.

Of course if I came in here with some anti-Trump rumor, most JFC members nowadays would love to read it. Confirmation bias, anyone.

I figure I don't have anything to say unless it's different or provocative.

However, it is a tiresome life trying to talk to people who don't value differences in thought. So I don't go on most threads in here. I offered some threads which I purposed to deliberately follow some other trends of information, like the climate news.

Politically opinionated folks sometimes lose their good humor when dealing with overwhelming masses of dire doomsayings like "Trump".

but I figured Trump was another rich dude with some closer friends than me, and I didn't think he'd do much besides lock up Hillary But that was more than I could hope for, apparently.......

Because Hillary is back.

As for the Kurds, nobody ever liked them. Not the Turks, not the Iranians, not the Iraquis or Syrians. And they've been infiltrated with weapons and other help from Russia, Iran, and the US because, well, they didn't like ISIS much.

I think we should get the UN to set up a protectorate, taking their lands from all their neighbors. Let them have their own. Draw lines on some paper, draw lines in the sands and rocks, and go home.