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Jazz are Setting Up a Tank

Honestly, it sounds like Windhorst is speculating here. “Because Ainge did this the last time he was in a similar situation, this trade means it’s going to happen again!” That’s not great logic in my opinion.

Or, he‘s going to attempt to sell high on Royce and upgrade him.
 
David Stern said:
Honestly, it sounds like Windhorst is speculating here. “Because Ainge did this the last time he was in a similar situation, this trade means it’s going to happen again!” That’s not great logic in my opinion.

Or, he‘s going to attempt to sell high on Royce and upgrade him.
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How on Earth is precedent and history, combined with what's happened the past two months, not great logic?

Doesnt mean it's right, but the logic is very sound.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Conley or Clarkson.

I think either would be good candidates as tank commanders
- Could juice their value for a later trade
- Good locker room guys with good attitudes
- Probably don't win you many games if they're your best player
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Clarkson is ideal.

Conley with Bogey and their vet leadership could play with a lot of pride and win 35 games. We need Clarkson to be the guy who feels like he has to chuck it 25 times a night.

Also, can we trade Whiteside to a **** team for their 2nd next year?
 
MT Steve said:
Your reasoning for it making no sense was specifically because the Jazz would take back bad contracts.
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If Don was destined to go to NY this whole time, why would NY send assets to dump Kemba? Why would Utah want Fournier or Randle instead?

Simple logic Cy.

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LoPo said:
That wasn't the damn point of the conversation. Somebody said it's all planned to go to NY and I explained why that makes no sense. Cy busted his big head into it and twisted the context of the conversation.

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Cy busted his big head into a thread he created and has driven all the discussion about.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
How on Earth is precedent and history, combined with what's happened the past two months, not great logic?

Doesnt mean it's right, but the logic is very sound.
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Because it’s a sample size of one and he traded aging past their prime vet former stars, not current stars in or headed into their prime. Massive difference, *******.
 
Keefe said:
Because it’s a sample size of one and he traded aging past their prime vet former stars, not current stars in or headed into their prime. Massive difference, *******.
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Donovan is past his prime. The foot injuries and being a 6'1 guard will age him quickly.
 
I think Gobert gets traded. Mitchell wouldn't be traded until the KD situation resolves, since Miami is pursuing KD and may also be the front-runner for Mitchell.

If the Jazz trade Gobert and the package has solid wing players to play next to Mitchell, then it will look as though the Jazz are planning to build around Mitchell for a while.

If the Jazz trade Gobert and the package is very pick heavy with very young players coming back, then it points to a rebuild.

Possibilities should be:
** Gobert to Atlanta for Collins/Capela/young player/picks. See if Capela gets moved to T'wolves in the deal. See if Bojan gets packaged and sent to ATL to replace Gallinari.
** Gobert to Toronto for OG/GTJ and another piece, e.g., Flynn, etc.
** Gobert to Minnesota for a boatload of picks and young players picked up in the draft like Walker Kessler, Wendell Moore, Kendall Brown
 
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David Stern said:
Honestly, it sounds like Windhorst is speculating here. “Because Ainge did this the last time he was in a similar situation, this trade means it’s going to happen again!” That’s not great logic in my opinion.

Or, he‘s going to attempt to sell high on Royce and upgrade him.
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Its not just Windy guessing based on precedence. This is him saying the thing without saying the thing. If you listen to him over the years he hates being aggregated... he loves being dramatic and slightly cryptic. He knows something and that is why he said this... not saying this because he is looking at weather patterns and ****. He knows ****.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah because none of those teams would also have interest in KD.

KD domino had to fall first. Don is gone
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It is curious that all the players in Mitchell’s inner circle are out. It almost feels personal, like we’ll show this kid clowning us on social media. But even if we did deal both guys, I don’t see us going into tank mode. Smith is determined to stay out of the tax this season but we’re not a tank team, never have been.
 
Release the Kraken said:
It is curious that all the players in Mitchell’s inner circle are out. It almost feels personal, like we’ll show this kid clowning us on social media. But even if we did deal both guys, I don’t see us going into tank mode. Smith is determined to stay out of the tax this season but we’re not a tank team, never have been.
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I dont think it's personal. I just think those players werent that good and Royce was able to net a first so it was an obvious trade.
 
Assuming that the Jazz are on the tank path (and I increasingly they are):

What kind of young talent should they target? Does this change compared to when the thought was that they'd rebuild around Donovan?

For example, Collins, Hunter, and OG will all be 25 this year. Is that too old now? McDaniels is younger, but he's never struck me as someone who should be the centerpiece/senior citizen of a rebuild. Should the priority be solely on draft picks without worrying about youngish talent?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think it's personal. I just think those players werent that good and Royce was able to net a first so it was an obvious trade.
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I don't think its personal.. but I think it may have been a bit of a test... or a sign that we out on Donovan.
 
idiot said:
Assuming that the Jazz are on the tank path (and I increasingly they are):

What kind of young talent should they target? Does this change compared to when the thought was that they'd rebuild around Donovan?

For example, Collins, Hunter, and OG will all be 25 this year. Is that too old now? McDaniels is younger, but he's never struck me as someone who should be the centerpiece/senior citizen of a rebuild. Should the priority be solely on draft picks without worrying about youngish talent?
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I would be extremely selective in any young talent that was targeted for long-term purposes. If we tank now, picking top 3 in the 2023 draft is the priority. Draft picks + garbage expiring contracts are our friend.
 
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