gandalfe
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I don't know what they said, but I assume it was a personal attack towards me.
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Yep.
gandalfe
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I guess predictability is a positive trait?
The Thriller
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It was against us both. Unfortunately, it’s what most of this board has come to expect out of him. Cheap attacks from a dishonest troll who is becoming increasingly more ignored on this board.
As I’ve said before, going outside and developing real relationships is a good thing. If one spends too much time (as many of us do) online one will tend to say things they might regret. I know I’ve done this many times before and I regret the lost relationships. Which is why introspection is such a good thing. Introspection helps us make changes and learn from mistakes. If one is mostly ignored by a board or believes that one is being dishonest, then solution isn’t to double down on the dishonesty, bad faith arguments, and jerk (trolling) behavior.
Never too late to change and add value to the board. Sadly, I have a feeling he’s going to double down, attempt to make himself out to be the victim, and lash out at others.
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Al-O-Meter
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The Thriller always accused me of being a sock puppet account for Bucknutz and Babe.
As far as reasoning, I can reason on most subjects but child abuse is where I draw the line.
Al-O-Meter
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I do not consider myself the victim in this. In this, I am punching down. I am truly fortunate. I know that. The victim in this is now a young adult who cannot support themselves and will have a difficult time integrating into society due to deliberate decisions made by that kid's parents during childhood. If that kid commits suicide, it will not be broader society or biology that is to blame.
There is a victim in this, and there is someone playing the victim to distract from the role he played. I am neither, and I have no use for the one playing the victim. He can stay away from me.
Should I have not taken the bait when he replied to one of my posts? Maybe. But I said what I said and it is the way I feel so I'll own it.
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The Thriller
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LOL!
Annndddd you keep digging and digging. BTW, I haven’t taught in a k12 classroom for almost a decade now since moving into some administrative roles in Utah. So it’s just weird that you keep accusing me of… whatever it is you imagine I do to students in the classroom. And it’s not the first time I’ve stated my administrative role on this website. So It’s a weird straw man that you keep bringing up, accusing me of everything bad that you think happens in K12 education.
Imagine being so depraved and desperate for attention that you accuse strangers on the Internet of child abuse. Thanks once again for confirming to everyone here exactly what I knew you were months and months ago, a classless dishonest troll.
Do everyone a favor and stay off the Internet for a while, go outside, and get some human interaction. Clearly, you’re in desperate need of it.
Annndddd you keep digging and digging. BTW, I haven’t taught in a k12 classroom for almost a decade now since moving into some administrative roles in Utah. So it’s just weird that you keep accusing me of… whatever it is you imagine I do to students in the classroom. And it’s not the first time I’ve stated my administrative role on this website. So It’s a weird straw man that you keep bringing up, accusing me of everything bad that you think happens in K12 education.
Imagine being so depraved and desperate for attention that you accuse strangers on the Internet of child abuse. Thanks once again for confirming to everyone here exactly what I knew you were months and months ago, a classless dishonest troll.
Do everyone a favor and stay off the Internet for a while, go outside, and get some human interaction. Clearly, you’re in desperate need of it.
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gandalfe
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Wait. Are they accusing me of child abuse?
WTF?
How disgusting is that? How **** sick and entitled do you have to be to feel like you can just randomly say things like that?
Is this because my child is non-binary? If so, **** off, you cancerous boil of vomit, you twisted malodorous pile of fetid excrement.
He's had other suppositions.
Your toxicity is abuse, and there's a good chance it will damage your child even worse than your complete statistical failures.
Red
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“There is no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans, and that is a threat to this country.”
Why did you leave out the full quote? Because you were less than honest there? It surely makes a difference:
“Not every Republican, not even a majority of Republicans, are Maga Republicans," Biden said.
"But there's no question the Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the Maga Republicans, and that is a threat to this country."
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It's probably useless, but I'll try to lay out a similar situation for you so you can understand just what sort of jerk you behaved like here.
Your kid undergoes a surgery to remove a benign yet decently sized growth in chest. Perhaps a rib or two needed to be separated and then reattached in the process. The doctor will send yo9u home with a few prescriptions, including some opioids for pain. The opioids allow your kid to sleep, to eat, to do something besides focus on the pain. You carefully monitor their progress and doses, easing them along. Your child will never be quite the same again, but they'll find a new way of living that allows them to prosper and fulfill themselves.
When you talk about this on-line, some commentator tells you that kids who never take opioids are much less like to die of an overdose. The commentator calls you a child abuser for allowing your kids to even take one pill. The commentator hasn't seen your kids pain, hasn't worked through to a new future, hasn't spent nights worrying about that future and what future suffering your kids might endure. The commentator is nonetheless very self-righteous in their ignorance, and has no problem raying to the heavens you you abused your kids by giving them the opioids, because kids who never take opioids never overdose on them.
In this conversation, you are that commentator.
I'm sure your first reaction is claim that you seem some large differences between the two situations. This is naturally true, because it's an analogy. Those differences don't change who you were in this conversation, and who you seem to be determined to be.
Al-O-Meter
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I brought attention to the core of what I though was so dangerous. I don't care if Biden draws a distinction between the Republican Party today and MAGA Republicans. Even in the most charitable interpretation, he was still declaring that his government considered millions of Americans to be enemy combatants. In a more even interpretation, he made that declaration for all in "the Republican Party today" while standing on a blood red stage, flanked by representatives of a military who could conceivably exterminate the "threat to this county".
Just days earlier, he had equated millions of Americans with a movement the American government had a history of combating with bullets and bombs.
Since the speech, Biden has completely reversed course to claim that Trump supporters are not a threat to the country but that he believes some actions to be a threat to democracy. Is that the real Biden or was the real Biden the one on the blood red stage with the military while threatening unity to him or else? I personally believe the truth is neither. I believe Joe Biden is an old man doing his best to deliver words written for him by someone else. I don't know what the person who wrote those words believes but seeing that speech directed at Americans and delivered in that blood red, militarized setting is not a thing I take comfort in.
Like Franco's fascist Spain?
Unlike Republicans, who never associate themselves with red and never surround themselves with the military?
As opposed to political movements we have not battled with bullets and bombs?
A lie.
At heart, you're just a scared little rabbit, I guess. That really explains so much.
gandalfe
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I just don't understand at all why they brought anyone's kids into this conversation.
I get why religious conservatives are so concerned about pedophilia. They’re churches are riddled with sexual predators. They’re so worried about sharing a bathroom with a trans person, when their church leaders and youth organizations are facilitating and protecting child rapists.
Hey, before protesting a drag brunch and banning books, how about you police your own first.
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Hey, before protesting a drag brunch and banning books, how about you police your own first.
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The Thriller
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Is this small government?
Is this freedom?
Wait, isn’t this cancel culture?
View: https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1566506239630184448?s=21&t=Nc8aPVCjbPX59_7HZRjvVw
Is this freedom?
Wait, isn’t this cancel culture?
View: https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1566506239630184448?s=21&t=Nc8aPVCjbPX59_7HZRjvVw
The Thriller
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A troll thrives when he can troll and people take him seriously. A troll hates it when he trolls and everyone either ignores him/recognizes his trolling behavior. That’s been happening more and more with him. Most posters are either ignoring him or calling him out.
I have him on block but it’s pretty obvious the tide really turned with his endless spin about the FBI raid on Mar-a-lago. I saw posts from I believe Fish, LG, and Game calling him out. Rather than admit he was wrong in defending Trump, he dug deeper. When he dug deeper, other posters called him out. They called him
Dishonest, which is one of the main lapses in character I recognized from him out of the gate. He spins and lies in his arguing here, making engagement frustrating and not enlightening or informative. Because his feelings got hurt in the latest exchanges this past week, he decided to lash out personally at a few posters. Sadly, you and your child were a main target.
A poster of better character and maturity might recognize his mistakes, own them, and change. I know I’ve said things that I regret. It has cost me relationships. Usually this happens when I’ve spent too much time online and without going outside and connecting with real human beings. Unfortunately, I have the feeling he’s going to continue to dig his hole deeper and continue to lash out. Burn relationships with people that shouldn’t be burned. He’ll make himself out to be the victim and a martyr for some conservative and noble cause. Perhaps at some point he might regret what he’s done? I have my doubts. I’d love for him to prove me wrong, for once.
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The Thriller
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I really wish @colton still posted here. I’d love to hear his thoughts on this. Churches have never been perfect. But it definitely seems like the dominant religion in Utah has taken it on the nose these last few years. Either with so many members supporting Trump, issues related to the LGBT community, and now issues of race and bishops not reporting child abuse to law enforcement.
As someone who is moderately active in the LDS church, it’s becoming increasingly hard to defend the church’s main leadership up in Salt Lake. My local leadership and members are generally kind and caring people. But the questionable (at best) decisions made at the top almost make it untenable to maintain membership and activity within the church. I’d love to hear his thoughts… or anyone else’s here who’d like to talk about this.
Seven years of sex abuse: How Latter-day Saint officials let it happen
The Associated Press has obtained nearly 12,000 pages of sealed records from a child sex abuse lawsuit against the Latter-day Saint church. The documents offer the most detailed and comprehensive look yet at the church's so-called “help line” for dealing with child sex abuse accusations against...
Boy Scouts reach $850 million settlement with tens of thousands of sexual abuse victims
The settlement is the largest in a child sexual abuse case in United States history.
Here’s the most recent news THIS MONTH. Tens of thousands of victims.
This is sick.
I am also interested to hear what the religious right is doing about this, funny it’s never mentioned by them. Their kids are in danger of being raped every Sunday, but they actively try to blame LGBTQ+ folks for grooming and SA.
Moral high ground my ***.
Edit: didn’t even post a Catholic Church article.
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