Eddie Zero
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dead men don't tell jokes so I know you lying smh
John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine
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HermanG
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Well every clinically tested vaccine I know has "death" listed as a possible side effect. However, that also applies to most other medicines, and the chance is listed as extremely low. It is most commonly just a liability related protection for the pharmaceutical company.
What cannot be effectively measured though is the number of lives a vaccine potentially saves. It can be estimated, but not measured.
Anti-vaccine people often act like 1 verified death due to vaccine is too much even if that vaccine is estimated to save 1000s of lives. That is just childish anti-government and anti-corporate conspiracy theorist propaganda.
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You guys stop... Johnny died a hero years ago... you think if John Stockton was around we would even have had Covid... he's have shut that **** down.
JohnnyClutch
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Says the genius with the garbage truck degree from AAA trucking school.
He's right.
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination - Clinical Research in Cardiology
Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and...
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Try keeping you mouth shut where your a dumbass and people might not know it, instead of flapping your gums and removing all doubt.
It’s amazing how many people here believe that this is the first vaccine to not have any rare side effects. Do the benefits outweigh those risks; most likely, yes. But, there isnt even a public discussion tracking such risks on a vaccine that was pushed out in record time. Discussion of any kind has been shut down completely.
gandalfe
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They have to list everything that was reported as a side effect, even if there is no way it's related. That's why you'll see things like nausea reported as a side effect of pretty much everything.
I've had 4 vaccine shots now and somehow still alive.
The vaccine immediate side effects were way worse for me than actual covid (and yes, I know that's likely because I was vaccinated). The day after a covid **** I feel like my body is going to fall apart
The vaccine immediate side effects were way worse for me than actual covid (and yes, I know that's likely because I was vaccinated). The day after a covid **** I feel like my body is going to fall apart
gandalfe
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I had 5 shots (including the bivalent!), and Covid. Covid was way worse for me, but because I was vaxxed, it was about 36 hours of hell and then another week of meh.
gandalfe
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You have that absolutely wrong. There is more public discussion of the safety of the Covid vaccine than any other (currently, I don't know about historically). But so many people have stupid takes on it, without any basic in science or fact, that THEY get shut down pretty fast.
If we look at the actual facts, your comment is absolutely false. The vaccine with second most scientific publications and *also* second most newspaper articles is the Polio vaccine (and it dwarfs the discussion of all other vaccines, except the number one discussed vaccine),, which was released for human use in 1932, which was released for human use WAY faster than any vaccine has been pushed to human use before or after. The Covid vaccine is by far the most discussed vaccine there ever has been, it has about 1.5 times more scientific articles and about 4 times more newspaper articles published than the Polio vaccines, despite the meager fact the Polio vaccine has been around for 90 years while the Covid vaccine has been here for two years.
Hearsky
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And, just like that, I know where you were on January 6, 2021.Says the genius with the garbage truck degree from AAA trucking school.
He's right.
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination - Clinical Research in Cardiology
Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and...
Try keeping you mouth shut where your a dumbass and people might not know it, instead of flapping your gums and removing all doubt.
There are definitely side effects to any vaccine, including death for someone with severe allergic reactions, etc. My sister had horrible hives from the COVID vaccine for nearly a year (I think Moderna). Generally vaccines are very safe for the supermajority of the population.
Eddie Zero
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Sorry, anyone with those types of allergies, would not be administered the vaccine. You cannot say that someone had allergic reactions to any vaccine, unless they didn't have it on file, at which point, there is no truth or proof the vaccine was the cause.
Getting hives could have come from anything.
It's crazy that for something that has not had any public discussion I have personally participated, often unwillingly, in more than a half-dozen public discussions of it. I have read more than a dozen accounts of it online. I have heard it mentioned in major news outlets.
There absolutely has been a ton of discussion about this. It just seems like you didn't like the conclusion.
latin jazz
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Hey, what's wrong with a garbage truck degree?. Can you name a few schools that teach it? What's is the recruitment process like? Tougher than, say, Trump university? Tell us your experience please.Says the genius with the garbage truck degree from AAA trucking school.
He's right.
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination - Clinical Research in Cardiology
Cases of myocarditis, diagnosed clinically by laboratory tests and imaging have been described in the context of mRNA-based anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Autopsy-based description of detailed histological features of vaccine-induced myocarditis is lacking. We describe the autopsy findings and...
Try keeping you mouth shut where your a dumbass and people might not know it, instead of flapping your gums and removing all doubt.
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I think you mistake cheerleading with discussion. People are selling hard, but very little is put out there regarding the negative side effects.
Take this forum for example. I am fully vaccinated along with every member of my family. But because I’m encouraging the topic to even be discussed there are people, such as this poster, who jump to conclusions and go on the attack. Science is science because it allows itself to be questioned and reaffirmed continuously.
latin jazz
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I don't think Gameface is cheerleading the vaccine or attacking you. He is just pointing out that Covid has been one of the most studied and discussed diseases ever (along with the vaccines). The information is out there and so far it seems the covid vaccines has been a success for saving lives while minimizing the risk of short or long-term side effects. Perhaps there are a few reputable studies that show otherwise. Nothing wrong with sharing them here.
I think the discussion in Jazzfanz is pretty chill when you compare it with Twitter (as long as you keep it respectful and don't act like oneye or UtahJazz32)
I've heard the negative stuff. Even from sources less dumb than the post above mine. It is out there.
Who is telling you that this info isn't out there? Anyone telling you that is lying to you and you should ask yourself why they are lying about that.