It’s actually pretty crazy. Favors at 23 and 24 was averaging 16/8 with 1.5 BPG.
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It’s actually pretty crazy. Favors at 23 and 24 was averaging 16/8 with 1.5 BPG.
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Not if the target is "to the ground" though.
All his smaller screw ups amounted to a pretty big screw up which slammed shut the Mitchell/Gobert window. It is crazy to think what 2 very obvious moves could have done. Bane and Jaden McDaniels we the obvious choices instead of Dok. Going into the summer we signed Favors we clearly needed a stretch big. I was screaming for Bobby Portis but of course we end up with the Favors disaster. Portis and either Bane or McDaniels completely changes the trajectory of our future.
Favors was a really great dude but because he was a nice guy I think his lack of work ethic was dismissed. He never got better and always seemed to be in terrible cardio shape. He would look gassed after a couple times up and down the court. Similar to what you see from huge defensive tackles after only a few plays.
What Lindsay/Zanik did was worse. They wasted the golden opportunity to actually win something. It did screw over the franchise for years.
It's hard to know how much was related to work ethic, everyone seemed to respect and love him. But there are few players who were as drastically different when they were "right" as Favors. If his body was right, he could have been one of the better C's in the league but those times were few and far in between.
The thing in our favor is that MIN is kind of trapped with DLO. If he leaves, they get nothing and won't have any cap space to replace him. But do they really want to commit to DLO long term? Their team is a mess and I can't imagine that to be the case.
Conley is a big negative with his contract, but maybe the Jazz can get away with it due to the panic in MIN.
I saw this coming after last season. He was awful in the playoffs, but you could tell in the RS he couldn't beat guys without massive screens. Conley is a good guy, but like you said he's not really a starting level player. His body can't handle that anyways. I think his value in regards to "running the team" ect. is real but overstated. The starting lineup was better with Sexton and he's the opposite of that. Maybe you can trick a team like MIN into buying, but it would have to be a unique junk for junk type of trade.
Lindsey had nothing to do with the trading of the 24 first round pick or the Rudy Gay signing. Both of those moves happened in the months between when Lindsey was reduced to an "advisory" role and Danny Ainge was hired. Justin Zanik is the guy that pulled the trigger on both of those moves.
Worst part was that the decisions were clearly bad from the get go. Only fools thought Dok and Favors made any kind of sense.
With Favors, you could maybe say it was ok in a use it or lose it sense. But when you combine it with barely going over the tax, it was very crushing. I honestly think the commitment to Favors-Gobert as a pairing was really bad in the first place. Favs value deteriorated a lot over time and all we got for committing to it for so long was horrible spacing and an offense that was set up to fail.
The long term commitments to obviously flawed rosters, first with the non-shooting lineup, then with the no defense lineup was probably the most offensive thing to me as a fan. There were a lot of individual bad moves, but running into the same wall over and over again without admitting fault really upset me. Making mistakes is one thing, doubling down is another. They had the golden opportunity with Mitchell-Gobert locked in and totally failed them.
The Christian Wood stuff is wild.
He's apparently the worst teammate/locker-room guy on planet Earth because he puts up pretty great stats, and his advanced stats dont suggest he is terrible defensively, but Jason Kidd and every coach/organization who has ever had him seems pretty desperate to get rid of him.
IT will be fascinating to what contract he gets because his reputation is probably making everyone terrified of being the team that gives him the bag.
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Yeah I do wonder how having a young backcourt mate like Bane would've influenced Don's decision to stay in Utah long term. He certainly seems happier now playing with young guys like Garland. Our FO kept adding old vets like Conley/Gay like they were the final piece of the puzzle. It's a bummer to think about.
I really think it was more about what Don said it was about. He became exhausted with the social-political culture of Utah. I think the governor (or whatever politician it was) saying he needed to be educated on black history was the final straw. Then there was the black girl who died of suicide in Utah. I think it all just added up and trolls/*****eads on social media probably made it even worse.
That and just the overall pressure of the failtures of the blown 3-1 series leads. I think the Gobert stuff and his teammates not being good enough is way overblown. He always had great teammates in Utah and Utah (until the final year) usually had great depth.
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Tim McMahon said that Luka actually really likes Wood. Said he can yell at him and he doesn't take it personally. Jason Kidd's management of him has been weird. This is the first winning situation he has really been in so not sure how to read the comments. Remember that Mavs got burned when Brunson hit FA... I think this is more about being able to lock him up long term at a price they like than him being a cancer. If he was a cancer they wouldn't be trying to extend him AND then if they can't do that they want to see what they can get for him.
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Apparently Fred Van Vleet is also not happy... retweeted the bet on yourself tweet...
Yeah, I agree with that, but it's all weird. There has to be something there unless the Mavs are just trying to play into his reputation to try and get some kind of deal? No idea, but it's weird both ways.
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Probably similar to what Kessler would average at 21 years old if he got the minutes and touches tbh.
Except Favors was a very high level perimeter defender for his size. Walker is no where close to that.