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Woj: Jazz agree to 3-team trade with Lakers and Timberwolves

sip said:
How exactly is wanting to take a flyer on Ben Simmons a bad thing? He would be on a 2 year contract and is well worth a shot at him getting back to his old self which was a damn good player. Even now he is still a solid player and one of the best defensive players in the league.
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no he's not. He's a broken shell of himself who's getting worse every year. Not to mention a king sized douche.
 
Really feels like we could’ve done better here. If that pick doesn’t convey we paid a 2nd to ship those guys out for WB. Ouch.

Minor - but why take Damian Jones, he’s got a Player Option next season. I’m certain we could’ve insisted on taking an expiring.
 
cowhide said:
Wow if this is true then DA got played. The last two DA trades have been bad in my opinion.
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Yeah but I don't think the Lakers would tank the whole season and risk not getting the top 4 pick though, would they? I mean you've got to be at least top 3 bad to at least have a "chance".

I think it's more for if they didn't make the playoffs and get REALLY lucky.
 
My question is what we could have gotten had we moved Beverley, Bojan, and whatever else of these guys to the Lakers in the summer. Could we get the same deal without the protections on the pick? What gets conveyed if it’s 1-4? They can’t really give us any other firsts… it could be a great pick but there’s also possibility that this pick becomes nothing and becomes risky (and could be viewed more risky for anyone giving up talent to get it).

It’s 2027, so that’s good. It gives us some time to put it in another deal.
 
My biggest complaint is that just with all the concessions the Jazz made to get this deal done we couldnt dump Gay with it. I'm sorry, but a protected pick that doesnt roll back means you take Rudy Gay.
 
We may have to view this trade a little differently. The players going out and what came back is pretty rough but if it also means that our own pick goes from the 10-14 range to the 6-8 then that is worth a decent amount. To actually move up that much on draft night it will cost you at least one 1st rd pick.
 
I think this may make a lot more sense if the Jazz have their eye on a FA next year, I just for the life of me see who that might be.
 
infection said:
My question is what we could have gotten had we moved Beverley, Bojan, and whatever else of these guys to the Lakers in the summer. Could we get the same deal without the protections on the pick? What gets conveyed if it’s 1-4? They can’t really give us any other firsts… it could be a great pick but there’s also possibility that this pick becomes nothing and becomes risky (and could be viewed more risky for anyone giving up talent to get it).

It’s 2027, so that’s good. It gives us some time to put it in another deal.
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I guarantee that before the year we would have had no problem trading Conley, Bojan and Beasley for the lakers 27 pick unprotected.
 
framer said:
I think this may make a lot more sense if the Jazz have their eye on a FA next year, I just for the life of me see who that might be.
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Kuzma definitely makes the most sense if they are wanting to swing big.
 
this trade today feels it suck but at the back of my head it feels right. our current lineup is just not good enough and DA have said it before that he don't want a middle of the pack team. hes going for the big fish ..............at all cost
 
Assuming the Pels get back on track, Minnesota will need to beat out the Warriors, Lakers and Blazers to make the playoffs.
 
- I have a lot of different thoughts right now. Logically I get it, but I'm not super excited.
- Clearly DA doesn't value 2nd round picks, like at all. When you take that in to consideration, then it makes more sense. We probably could have gotten loads of seconds for those players, but instead we are getting rid of seconds in order to get a first.
- It's hard to argue with the value since I have no doubt every possible deal had been discussed. Ultimately what can be argued is our strategy. Clearly we wanted that Lakers first. We also wanted to improve our draft position this year without taking back long term salary, and opening cap space for next year.
- I think it's fair to be upset about timing. It would have been nice to be in the running for top lottery odds vs hoping to get to top 6.
- The crazy unexpected part of the trade that I don't like is moving NAW. We finally opened up plenty of minutes for him, and now he's gone. I really couldn't have imagined I would be upset about losing NAW at the start of the year.
- I'll miss Conley. I'll miss watching an offense run by a true point guard. I'll miss what he brought to the team. I had hoped if we traded him he would have gone to a contender instead of the mess in Minnesota. It will be interesting to see what kind of impact he has there. I think it could be pretty big, since that team is so awful at passing. I'm guessing Minnesota is betting on Mike reestablishing his connection with Rudy, which I'm sure it will help him on the offensive end. I'm just not sure Minnesota can be good playing KAT and Rudy together, and with this version of Rudy on the defensive end.
- Kind of feels like we let the Lakers win this trade. I'm not a big believer in any of the guys they are getting, and potentiality they don't really improve, but the surface optics will be that they killed this trade, and that has me feeling yucky.
 
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