Mongoose
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I cant believe these racists don't like murderers and sex offenders
View: https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1839741316068192551
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Kamala Harris for Pres
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I studied economics at literal BYU and came away thinking "Wow, nationalism and trickle-down economics are really dumb concepts".
Can't believe BYU let themselves be corrupted by the libs.
Bucknutz
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30% of Americans have a criminal record. 7% of 9.6 million illegal immigrants is an upgrade by %. Still 663k more than they should have let in.
Still crazy. We have posters here that try to emotionally manipulate others saying, look at this 1 example, we should change the countries policies. This is 663k examples and these posters will probably stay quiet about this topic.
Absolutely, if half vote for The Rapist. Whoever votes for a traitor is traitorous. I'm interested how you can argue different.
Sardines
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What is it that people are going to be silent about? The number of people let go by the boarder service?
When you have 10 million immigrants you're probably going to have statistics that somewhat mirror the American general populace or the Mexican general populace or whatever populace they came from. Poor people commit crimes. Younger people commit crimes. And guess what, rich people commit crimes. You know, people like The Rapist who create fraudulent universities and scam people of their hard-earned money. Predatory people like Donvict who sell people who can't afford them bibles.
Immigrants kick ***. They do the hardest work in our country, do it with pride and the vast majority of them love the USA. That's much more than you could say about Trump voters who hate the USA because they are brainwashed by a total freak. Immigrant crime is among the least of our worries.
Bucknutz
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Border policies. Won’t speak up / don’t care about the byproducts of it.
Bucknutz
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That’s what I was implying on my first sentence. It’s a lower % of crime committed by immigrants than Americans.
I’m not arguing this, never have. I agree.
You think Trump voters hate the USA? Is loving the USA only exclusive to the Democrats and Independents. Just because you have different views, doesn’t make someone hate the USA.
It’s a byproduct of our border policies, additional crime in the USA.
Our border policy is terrible. Like I've said before, start shooting people who cross illegally and the problem stops instantly. We need immigrants though just as we always have. I think it would be unhealthy for a number of reasons to massively reduce immigration. Immigrants help contribute to the strong fabric of the USA and they always have.
The Thriller
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It’s amazing how up until 5 mins ago, BYU and Republicans held these ideas and these men up as conservatives. Now, due to Trump, they’ve turned against this stuff. Just look at the reaction to David French’s visit at BYU:
New York Times columnist tells BYU Christ is the key to healing political division
David French said the solution to America's hate filled politics "isn’t one party winning and another party losing. It isn’t your favorite politician winning and your most-hated politician losing. It is replacing alienation and loneliness with connection and love.”
www.deseret.com
View: https://x.com/byu/status/1838633194201235581?s=46
The Thriller
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Then they aren’t civically responsible and are lacking character and I wished they didn’t vote. If people are too lazy/selfish to think about how their vote is going to affect others, then they’re not doing their civic duty. If Trump hasn’t prompted them to re-evaluate their tribal loyalties, then they’re ****** people who I care not to know or understand anymore and I truly wish they just stay home in November and let the critical thinking adults run the country. The people Trump demagogues for example, are suffering right now. The least these voters can do is think for 30 seconds on how their vote for Trump might worsen that situation. Just think how many people Trump has hurt, ruined, or gotten killed. It’s appalling. “I merely vote R cuz tee hee *fart sounds*” while Ukraine, NATO, millions of Americans lives are at stake isn’t admirable.
Last thing, let’s stop infantilizing trumpers. I’m tired of it. Let’s call them what they truly are. Again, no one has more contempt for republicans than themselves. They only hate that I call them out for what they truly are; racist, low info, and irresponsible citizens.
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Yes, I think Trump voters hate the USA. They've been brainwashed into believing the USA sucks and could be so much better and that Trump can actually do something about it. So yes, they must hate the USA if they are voting for the guy who hates the USA. I believe Trump hates everything. Insane people are often like that.
The Thriller
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Trump is antithetical to American democracy. If his rhetoric and conduct hasn’t prompted people like Buck to re-evaluate his tribal loyalties, then good decent people need to shame these irresponsible children into oblivion and negate their voting by outvoting them. Frankly, they’re just ****** people and we need to call them what they are. Unlike Republicans, I don’t believe in voter suppression. But I do believe in good decent and responsible adults outvoting children so the country can remain a constitutional republic, remain connected to NATO, and maintain its law and order and not devolve into a right wing authoritarian nightmare like Hungary and Russia.
This election is a moral and civic test for Americans. Want to maintain a constitutional republican or become a fascist state?
Let’s republicans vote, that’s fine. Just negate their votes with your own. Overwhelm their loud obnoxious racist cries with steady voices of real leadership, not racism or demagoguery. Remind these losers who this country actually belongs to; good decent adults who actually care about others. Once republicans lose enough elections, they’ll be incentivized to drop this fascist nonsense and regain co leadership roles as conservative stalwarts. Until then, drown these deplorables out. Smother Trump’s political career in November. Send a message to the GOP that real America rejects their candidate and vision for America.
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Sardines
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Well sure, I guess that's me, but I'm not very quiet about it. I'm pro open boarders, within reason. The reason being that I think they should be open enough to meet the demand and allow people to come here and be admitted legally within a very short period of time. I support screening and all that, but I absolutely HATE our current system because it is far far too restrictive for what I think is morally right. We are citizens of a great nation, not the owners of it. The nation of the United States exists beyond any individual and certainly isn't, in my humble opinion, reserved only for those who were fortunate enough to be born within its boarders. The United States belongs to humanity and should serve the interests of humanity. That's my take anyway.
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Thats a good take and great post even though I disagree with it due to fear and selfishness.
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Political Jazz Fan
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View: https://x.com/hughhewitt/status/1840020570810794126
Since Joe Biden’s abdication,
@VP
Harris has given 6 interviews: To Dana Bash, Brian Taff, Stephanie “Chiquibaby” Himonidis, a panel of NABJ members —Eugene Daniels, Tonya Mosley and Gerren Keith Gaynor— Oprah, and Stephanie Ruhle.
The most often used term to describe the VP’s interviews is “vacuous.” The Oxford Dictionary defines “vacuous” as “having or showing a lack of thought or intelligence; mindless.” Be your own judge of her capacity to think and lead, but it seems clear that voting for the VP (and voting is underway in many states) is to will the decline and indeed the eclipse of the U.S. as a superpower and master of its own destiny. Some people want that. Others are ignorant of the stakes.
We know that former President Trump intends the U.S. to thrive and that his policies will return the country to its pre-Covid economic growth and military strength. I don’t know how anyone who (1) isn’t counting on a job in the Harris administration or (2) having “access” to that list of 3,000 San Francisco leftists who will make up Team Harris or (3) who isn’t themselves “vacuous,” votes for Harris.
Even the voters who loathe the former president must understand that four years of a Harris presidency means the country lurches into the chaos that defines the streets of San Francisco and the economic ruin of the businesses adjacent to such policies.
Finally, as Trump’s first term unfolded, the world’s evil men became very hesitant to kill or even threaten harm to Americans. Trump was himself a deterrent to the most brutal regimes. Harris will be a bright green light to the worst of the worst.
Vote accordingly.
The Thriller
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Gift article
www.theatlantic.com
“But thrill! You need to respect those cheering this in this video. They aren’t disgusting pigs. They’re just innocent lil Americans who are economically anxious and just don’t know what type of person they’re supporting. Let’s coddle them and seek to understand them and don’t you ever dare judge them ill or hold them to any standard!”
View: https://x.com/acyn/status/1840118070037361072?s=46
The Republican Freak Show
Like the man who leads it, the GOP is not just incidentally grotesque. It is grotesque at its core.
www.theatlantic.com
“But thrill! You need to respect those cheering this in this video. They aren’t disgusting pigs. They’re just innocent lil Americans who are economically anxious and just don’t know what type of person they’re supporting. Let’s coddle them and seek to understand them and don’t you ever dare judge them ill or hold them to any standard!”
View: https://x.com/acyn/status/1840118070037361072?s=46
Red
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Great post. I love your sentiment that we don't own the USA, we are merely temporary citizens of it. We should control our borders but the spirit of the USA is that we welcome everyone regardless of where they come from or what color they may be.
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