The Climate Change Thread

More than half the world’s food production will be at risk of failure within the next 25 years as a rapidly accelerating water crisis grips the planet, unless urgent action is taken to conserve water resources and end the destruction of the ecosystems on which our fresh water depends, experts have warned in a landmark review.

Half the world’s population already faces water scarcity, and that number is set to rise as the climate crisis worsens, according to a report from the Global Commission on the Economics of Water published on Thursday.

Demand for fresh water will outstrip supply by 40% by the end of the decade, because the world’s water systems are being put under “unprecedented stress”, the report found.

One more reason why electing Trump would be a disaster:


An influential oil and gas industry group whose members were aggressively pursued for campaign cash by Donald Trump has drafted detailed plans for dismantling landmark Biden administration climate rules after the presidential election, according to internal documents obtained by The Washington Post.

The plans were drawn up by the American Exploration and Production Council, or AXPC, a group of 30 mostly independent oil and gas producers, including several major oil companies. They reveal a comprehensive industry effort to reverse climate initiatives advanced during nearly four years of Democratic leadership. At the same time, the documents contain confidential data showing that industry’s voluntary initiatives to cut emissions have fallen short.

The lobbying blueprint takes particular aim at a new tax on emissions of methane, a gas that the International Energy Agency (IEA) says is responsible for nearly a third of human-caused global warming. The documents show the methane emissions of nine of 19 AXPC member companies that responded to an internal survey are increasing — in many cases sharply.

The policy plans, contained in documents distributed to a wide group of company executives at AXPC board meetings in April and August, also call for a repeal of more than a half dozen executive orders that lie at the center of the Biden administration’s efforts to combat climate change. Taken together, the group’s goals amount to a monumental rollback of some of the most aggressive federal tools to cut emissions.

Read an article today that said that China created the world's largest wind turbine in the world. It can create enough electricity/energy to power 96,000 homes for a year.

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fishonjazz said:

Read an article today that said that China created the world's largest wind turbine in the world. It can create enough electricity/energy to power 96,000 homes for a year.

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So about 1 city block in most major cities in China.

Ron Mexico said:

So about 1 city block in most major cities in China.

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Yep, pretty impressive

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fishonjazz said:

Read an article today that said that China created the world's largest wind turbine in the world. It can create enough electricity/energy to power 96,000 homes for a year.

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That's amazing.

Red said:

Developing Nations And Nonprofits Reject ‘Disaster’ COP29 Climate Deal

The COP29 climate conference ends in "disaster," as wealthy nations delivered a deal on finance that was rejected by key developing countries.

www.forbes.com

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That is outright false. They took the deal. They wanted more, and are grumbling it wasn't more, but they took what was there to be had. The United States Senate needs to reject having anything to do with this scam. We do not need to be paying $300 billion dollars into the pockets of climate scammers.

Red said:

How much should you worry about a collapse of the Atlantic conveyor belt? » Yale Climate Connections

Scientists warned recently that the risk "has so far been greatly underestimated."

yaleclimateconnections.org

Scientists sound alarm about terrifying ocean event that could bring devastation

The collapse of critical ocean circulation could bring major droughts and freezing temperatures across Europe

www.independent.co.uk

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The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.

LogGrad98 said:

The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.

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I’m likely living where climate change is more noticeable. Our local lobster industry has collapsed, as our waters are warming and lobsters heading north. The erosion of our south facing shorelines is staggering. Our string of salt pond Atlantic beaches are among the best between NY and Cape Cod. We’re told these geographic features will be among the first to disappear with continued sea level rise. Compounding things, we lead in offshore wind development, which in turn harms the offshore fishing industry.

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We’re told these geographic features will be among the first to disappear with continued sea level rise.

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They tell you a lot of things. That doesn't mean it is true.


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LogGrad98 said:

The problem with this is there is no meaningful timeline. We've been hearing about imminent collapse of various parts of our ecosystems due to climate change for 30-ish years now. Most everything that has occurred has been gradual for the most part and has also been less impactful than predicted in most cases. I remember articles claiming the California drought would never end, that it signified the tipping point of climate collapse...until it ended with torrential rain. Then the torrential rain became the harbinger of climate collapse...until we got another couple of years of drought, followed by more rain. I mean, yes we can see the swings in severity, the drought was deep and record-setting with huge fires as a result, followed by literal record rainfall. But nothing that has been unendurable or life-threatening or indicative of climate collapse. And the California climate issues were just one tiny point on a huge scatterplot of **** they got wrong. Now imminently Europe will enter a mini-ice age. Ok. I'm just not buying into the panic-mongering. Things are changing, sure enough. But cataclysmically? Hardly.

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More extreme climate incidents is definitely a reality, flooding and fires are becoming regular events. We're presently at the start of what I think will be the hottest summer of my lifetime, We've already had more 30 and 40 degree days than we normally would for most of the summer and its only mid December.

Red said:

I’m likely living where climate change is more noticeable. Our local lobster industry has collapsed, as our waters are warming and lobsters heading north. The erosion of our south facing shorelines is staggering. Our string of salt pond Atlantic beaches are among the best between NY and Cape Cod. We’re told these geographic features will be among the first to disappear with continued sea level rise. Compounding things, we lead in offshore wind development, which in turn harms the offshore fishing industry.

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I was reading articles last year on the massive environmental damage being done here by huge aquaculture corporations, the huge amount of concentrated waste caused by these fish pens is killing the sea floor.

Al-O-Meter said:

They tell you a lot of things. That doesn't mean it is true.

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Of course. But I’m not ready to dismiss what they’re saying about the AMOC. I’m also not in Trump’s “climate change is a hoax” camp. I’m sure for many on his projected team, and among his “flock”, any news related to climate issues is automatically rejected as propoganda. Seems to be assembling a pretty anti-science team as it is…



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Key Atlantic current could collapse soon, 'impacting the entire world for centuries to come,' leading climate scientists warn

Leading climate scientists ring alarm bell on key Atlantic Ocean current collapse in open letter

www.livescience.com

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I’m sure for many on his projected team, and among his “flock”, any news related to climate issues is automatically rejected as propoganda. Seems to be assembling a pretty anti-science team as it is…

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Trump’s science team is looking solid. I particularly like his nominees to head NIH and NASA.

Science is broken and needs an overhaul. ‘Publish or perish’ has led to an epidemic of academic plagiarism, and ‘peer review’ morphing into unskeptical ‘pal review’ means what is being plagiarized is fake knowledge. There is a massive reproducibility problem in science right now.



Instead of fixing the problem, academic incorporated has turned to defending all this fraudulent work using systems of power. NIH nominee Jay Bhattqacharya was right about COVID but silenced by having his funding pulled and the government making calls to social media companies to have his accounts suspended, banned, and censored.

The UK inventing climate records with non-existent measuring stations is not science. Academic plagiarizers copying fake facts is not science. Countering hypothesis with state boots on throats is not science. I’m all for Trump putting some people who have made clear their intentions to change these issues for the better into positions where they have the power to do so.