Douchebag K
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man you were on the money with that
Game Thread Oct 23, 2024 07:00PM MT: Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz
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Douchebag K
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what's the status of the T-Henny bus ?
I'm just hoping for a win every game and playoffs.
Step-Back Lauri
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I don't see much chance for a win. Memphis offense will absolutely annihilate Jazz defense. They hired one of the worlds best offensive minds to be their assistant coach and the leader of offensive schemes. Their ball movement and assisting already in the pre-season was great, and actually they had most assists. We'll see tons of actions on Wednesday where Jazz help defense will be late af, and as the projected backcourt pairing aren't really excelling in man to man defense, it's gonna be ugly. I'd advice to pick sizeable win (+10) for Memphis,if you're on betting at all. Generally, bet on Memphis, they're gonna be better than market predictions.
Jazz homecourt. It will be a close game. If it's a blowout, it's probably a Jazz win
Step-Back Lauri
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Oh, true, homecourt advantage. I'll retract with the blowout for Memphis and say normal win. I don't think Jazz backcourt is ready for their offense at all so if it goes to crunch time, they'll take it.
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A. I don't consider jjj a star
B. If injured players don't play against the jazz I don't find anything out of the ordinary. Injured players also don't play against Boston.
Just checked his stats and was shocked to see his career high (6 seasons) in rebounds per game is 6.8.
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Guys who are injured play all the time. Being injured isnt black/white. The point is, if your star is slightly injured, they are more likely to sit in Utah vs any other NBA team, which makes losing a lot of games harder for Utah than any other "bad" team.
And JJJ is a star. He's made an all-star game, two 1st team all D and won a DPOY.
Step-Back Lauri
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It also has to be noted individual rebounds don't matter too much alone. Some players have deflated rebound numbers. The best example from past decade is Robin Lopez, whose boxing out was such great it allowed his team mates pick up the cherries while he boxes out the biggest and meanest opponents. He was much better rebounder than his career 6.0. average per game
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A. Your definition of star and mine are different. He is close, but isn't there yet for me. I'm looking at top 30 or so guys to make my star criteria.
B. I wasn't disagreeing with your overall point of teams resting guys against the jazz. I just disagree that is what Memphis is doing in this instance. I did a little research and it seems that jjj is injured and I dont think he would be playing tomorrow night if Memphis was playing the Celtics.
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This is basically what happened in 2022 and it set the tank back two full years.
If the 6 guys with most minutes are Lauri, Keyonte, Kessler, Sexton, Hendricks and Williams. . . then it won’t be terrible for them to win a few games.
If Clarkson, Collins, Svi and Eubanks are all getting big minutes, it’s a different story.
Jazz/Nuggets have the best homecourt advantage in the NBA, it's well documented. Altitude and time zone are obviously the biggest factors and shared commonality. Altitude and time zone also likely cause guys to sit out more. This has been the case since forever though, so I don't know why we suddenly make a big deal about it.
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Yeah I remember Sexton winning that game late vs Jokic.
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The Tay Henny bus is firing on all cylinders and has added 82 stops this year. We removed some seats and added stripper poles. There will be standing room only by stop 35. No whiners or dumbasses tho so if you complain you gone.
Because the whole concept of tanking involves losing games and it's kind of important to have teams play you full strength or you will pick up extra wins. You can say it's been a known thing, but I guarantee not that many are aware of it. You really dont have to do this schtick for everything
Really? People didn't know that the Jazz have one of the best home court advantages in the league? It's always been this way, it doesn't matter if we're tanking, contending, or something in between.
I dont think the average fan realizes how much stars sit in Utah vs every other team in the league. Dont move the goalpost.
I guess I don't see why it's important to suddenly start considering when it's been that way forever. Even if I didn't consider that the Jazz were better at home, why should I now think the Jazz are going to be better than I expected? The reason I think the Jazz are going to be bad is because of last season and last season the Jazz were playing in the same context as this year. I could have had no clue it was happening, but if I now know it's been this way, it shouldn't change my expectations. Whether you had considered it or not, it was already factored into the expectations.
I also don't see anyone feeling the need to constantly bring up that our players might actually be worse than they appear because they play half their games with extreme home court advantage.
Anyone think the Jazz would trade Sexton this year? He was in rumors about a year ago.
IMO, the rationale for keeping him is that you believe he has a chance to establish himself as a star. Having said that, it doesn't really seem the FO or coaching staff is very high on him. I think a lot of the league probably sees him as a 6th man and I would bet the Jazz are in that group based on his minutes/role.
If the Jazz only value him as a 6th man type and aren't even willing to give him the minutes/opportunity to prove he's more, they should have traded him already.