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2024-2025 Tank Race

SoberasHotRod said:
I'm not going to change the list after 4 games. We still have such a small sample size. The list likely will change, but after more like 20 games.
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This is the correct stance. Bulls have motivation to tank and if Lavines trade value recovers he will get moved prolly. They have enough functional pieces to work through that but it’s so early.
 
HermanG said:
The problem here is they may not be better than Bulls, Horncats and Pistons. They won 36 games with DJM last year, and that was despite Trae having the 2nd best 3P% season of his career. Its not the offense thats their problem.

At this point it seems obvious Quin Snyder sucks monkey balls at setting a defensive culture and his schemes on that end dont work. Gobert may have been covering for his *** more than people realized.
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Perhaps….I just never saw them as a real threat to our tank. Like CHI, they are not going to be a bottom dweller without injury or serious intervention from their coach. Unlike CHI, however, they have no incentive to tank.

ATL may have only one 36 games last year, but Trae+DJ was clearly a terrible fit and it definitely wasn’t Trae’s best year or even a good one for him. He was injured and by some metrics had his worst performance since his rookie year. They also won 41 the year prior with a similar roster. So unless you think John Collins was a huge factor for them, 36 was probably a low end outcome.

They have really bad injury issues right now and maybe that lingers all year…but I have a hunch they will go right back to where they belong, which is a mid team.
 
The Wizards started a lineup with 3 rookies and average age of 20 years old last night. They are going to end up horrible still….but these moments have got to feel incredible for that fan base. All their young guys played great and carried them to victory twice in a row.

The Jazz will have their moment when they get a couple wins and regardless of the tank it will feel great if it comes from the youngins.
 
KqWIN said:
Perhaps….I just never saw them as a real threat to our tank. Like CHI, they are not going to be a bottom dweller without injury or serious intervention from their coach. Unlike CHI, however, they have no incentive to tank.

ATL may have only one 36 games last year, but Trae+DJ was clearly a terrible fit and it definitely wasn’t Trae’s best year or even a good one for him. He was injured and by some metrics had his worst performance since his rookie year. They also won 41 the year prior with a similar roster. So unless you think John Collins was a huge factor for them, 36 was probably a low end outcome.

They have really bad injury issues right now and maybe that lingers all year…but I have a hunch they will go right back to where they belong, which is a mid team.
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Oh they arent a threat to us. But they may end up 7th or 8th.
 
KqWIN said:
The Wizards started a lineup with 3 rookies and average age of 20 years old last night. They are going to end up horrible still….but these moments have got to feel incredible for that fan base. All their young guys played great and carried them to victory twice in a row.

The Jazz will have their moment when they get a couple wins and regardless of the tank it will feel great if it comes from the youngins.
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And thats such a red flag on Atlanta. I dont care who they didnt have for that game. They had Trae Young and Jalen Johnson, but still got blown out by a team whose only starting vet was Jordan Poole.
 
I've been a big time tank connoisseur this year watching almost all of these team's games. I know @Handlogten's Heros is declaring war on league pass, but watching the "all possessions" condensed game is great. I do feel as though the Jazz are one of the least entertaining of the bad teams because our guards are all kind of the same. Other teams suck, but at least their young guys are playing roles and have responsibilities that fit them. I'm hoping we can start running the offense through Flip and Collier once they come back.

The best player to watch on this tanking team's list is Lamelo for sure. He looks like he's inventing ways to chuck up crazy shots every night, but they go in. He's a great player and so unserious at the same time.
 
fishonjazz said:
Reminds me of Clarkson a few years ago when he was the 6th man of the year flamethrower and he was throwing all kinds of bull crap up that was going in.
It was awesome

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Exactly, earlier I compared LaMelo to Clarkson but the flame is always on. Lamelo is also an incredible and flashy passer. Half the stuff he does in unnecessary, but it's so fun to watch.
 
KqWIN said:
I've been a big time tank connoisseur this year watching almost all of these team's games. I know @Handlogten's Heros is declaring war on league pass, but watching the "all possessions" condensed game is great. I do feel as though the Jazz are one of the least entertaining of the bad teams because our guards are all kind of the same. Other teams suck, but at least their young guys are playing roles and have responsibilities that fit them. I'm hoping we can start running the offense through Flip and Collier once they come back.

The best player to watch on this tanking team's list is Lamelo for sure. He looks like he's inventing ways to chuck up crazy shots every night, but they go in. He's a great player and so unserious at the same time.
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The worst thing about our tank so far is just how badly our young players have played. + one of them having a season ending injury. It kind of sucks. I would have prefferred we lose with them playing better but... oh well... sink or swim... on our way to Flagg...
 
KqWIN said:
I've been a big time tank connoisseur this year watching almost all of these team's games. I know @Handlogten's Heros is declaring war on league pass, but watching the "all possessions" condensed game is great. I do feel as though the Jazz are one of the least entertaining of the bad teams because our guards are all kind of the same. Other teams suck, but at least their young guys are playing roles and have responsibilities that fit them. I'm hoping we can start running the offense through Flip and Collier once they come back.

The best player to watch on this tanking team's list is Lamelo for sure. He looks like he's inventing ways to chuck up crazy shots every night, but they go in. He's a great player and so unserious at the same time.
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NBA blackouts are unamerican and when I’m president those responsible will be deported.
 
stitches said:
The worst thing about our tank so far is just how badly our young players have played. + one of them having a season ending injury. It kind of sucks. I would have prefferred we lose with them playing better but... oh well... sink or swim... on our way to Flagg...
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I’m hoping things look better once Collier a Flip get into the mix more. We won’t win more, but at least we’ll have some guys that can create for others. We’ve got a bunch of guys who are either chuckers or zero creation standstill offensive players right now. I don’t think the Jazz roster falls in line as well as a team like the Wizards who have a bunch of different skill sets.

With that said, it’s always going to look bad when you suck this badly. We wanted the tank, this is what the reality of tanking is like. Hopefully that 14% chance pays off.
 
bopahull said:
with the Jazz luck of the draw, they could wind up with a 99% chance and still lose out on the top pick.
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Dracula-face Adam Silver would love that; Pistons got ****ed last year so hopefully that doesn't happen this year and we end up top-3. Flagg would be great but Edgebombe and Bailey are going to be interesting as well. I think I like Edgecombe more than Bailey atm.
 
Been awhile since I've posted. I knew that DA was going to f up the team and that's why I turned in my Jazz fandom. Every year things have gotten worse since the arrival of DA. Now you're tanking for the No. 1 pick. Who could've imagined this two years ago before he traded Rudy and Don, and eventually the rest of team except for Clarkson. What a disaster. I wonder if the Jazz will ever recover. Sure must suck to be a Jazz fan now. Is D Wade still a part owner? I doubt they'll fire DA though. Anyone think that's an option?
 
kabenac said:
Dracula-face Adam Silver would love that; Pistons got ****ed last year so hopefully that doesn't happen this year and we end up top-3. Flagg would be great but Edgebombe and Bailey are going to be interesting as well. I think I like Edgecombe more than Bailey atm.
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Actually Pistons fell from 1 to 5 two years in a row, including in the Wemby draft.
 
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