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Is next season as a tank pretty much off the table?

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NUMBERICA said:
Alright. *exhales*

I am at peace that the Jazz will not be moving any of the quality vets.
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I would say "No" but not for winning culture. You dont just give away players for free. I dont think the Jazz are that far away if they able to land Cooper. Yeah, it's a long shot, but everything is a longshot when you are trying to build a contender based off some draft luck.

You get Cooper and you suddenly have a really good team.

Collier
Keyonte
Cooper
Lauri
Walker

with Clarkson/Collins/Hendricks/Sexton off the bench. With Filipowski/Sensabaugh/Williams/Harkless/Juzang on the deep bench with potential to step-up with development or be consolidated with draft assets into another star.

And maybe you get even luckier and Minnesota is in the lottery. Maybe you get even luckier and their pick jumps into the top 4.
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So combining some comments from other threads, it seems to me if we get through the next few hours w/o sending away Collins or Sexton, we're going to try to get to the playoffs next year.

I think the lynchpin to this idea is Collier's development. Dude is ballin and seems to be helping unlock Keyonte and is feeding the bigs.

Per Cy's comment above, if Lauri gets back to last season's form, that isn't a tanking roster, at all. I have less heartburn giving up next years 1st round if it isn't in the lottery anyway, and we seem that we could do the play-in at the very least if we're actually trying to and maybe be in acquisition mode to secure being there.

Another top 5 pick next year would be nice, but I really don't think it's worth throwing away the team we have at this point. Give me one of Cooper/Harper/Bailey and the assets we already have accumulated and I think a contender can be constructed from those pieces.
 
We may be tankin' and losing but we're playing a lot of close games. We're not getting blown out a lot. So we're going to have to trade talent for draft picks to tank next season and we have so many future picks already....
 
it shouldn't be off the table. in fact, it should 100% be ON the table. arguably a top 5 prospect of the last 15 years is out there in Dybantsa. and Boozer and Peterson aren't terrible consolation prizes.

if the experts are right and Dybantsa is better than Cooper freaking Flagg? yeah, you shoot your shot.
 
Jazz will try win the first few months. If they're fifty fifty team or better I see them push in for the play in. If it's closer to 40% Jazz goes into tank mode.
 
Lots of factors, but in general I’d say we definitely go into next season with the intention of winning.

If around the midway point Jazz are floundering and obviously not ready yet. I could see a big effort made to keep the pick. Would realllly suck to misplay it and give up a lotto pick.
 
They're definitely trying to tank, I think Ainge is just being annoying in that he refuses to trade Collins and Sexton unless he gets above a level of value he wants and in the end, they'll be traded at next deadline for nothing.
 
I think that still gonna be the plan.

I'd guess the plan right now would be to tank this one and the next, then start trying to compete after that (or maybe they trade Lauri in the offseason and show the plan to tank for another 2+ years).
 
If we win the lotto, the outlook for 2025-26 and beyond is drastically different than if we get the 5th pick for instance.

FO will make moves accordingly, which then impacts team success.

Impossible to tell now, as this whole DA "flexibility" approach literally means keeping all paths available and thus anything can happen.
 
One thing to note though:

Last two deadlines DA sold from the middle of the roster, and this year he only sold from the bottom.

You can argue "value wasnt there", but was it really that great last two years? I would say "tank" was more important than "value" past two DLs.

So is this a change in mindset or does he just like all our current guys too much to give discounts or does he feel like we are already bad enough this year? Who knows...
 
Agent#00 said:
No major upgrade means tank again next year
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A major upgrade this deadline would ruin the tank that they have been working on all season. If they are going to improve the roster that will happen in the off season. Obviously the tank has been going well enough they didnt feel the need to downgrade the roster more. But it would have been very dumb to improve it at this point.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
The Spurs got Wemby and tanked the next season. We should follow a similar path with whoever we get.
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I don't think there has ever been a team that has decided to start using assets to bring in a win now players based on a draft pick. We might be in a unique situation, but I just can't see Ainge drafting an 18 year old Cooper Flagg and deciding he's the guy before seeing him play a minute of NBA basketball.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
The Spurs got Wemby and tanked the next season. We should follow a similar path with whoever we get.
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Idk, the dude they got last draft doesn't seem like a superstar or anything.

Spurs after drafting wemby also didn't have a supporting cast nearly as good as the jazz would have if they don't make any trades and draft Flagg

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