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Cooper Flagg wants another year in college

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He stated this in an interview. If he stays at Duke, does that cast a shadow on our tanking effort?
 
bopahull said:
He stated this in an interview. If he stays at Duke, does that cast a shadow on our tanking effort?
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Of course it would cast a shadow on the tank. But it's not like there is another option at this point unless you think tanking for the 10th pick is now a good idea due to a player saying something in an interview.

Tank on.
 
fishonjazz said:
Of course it would cast a shadow on the tank. But it's not like there is another option at this point unless you think tanking for the 10th pick is now a good idea due to a player saying something in an interview.

Tank on.
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I know this years tank is in full bloom. What worries and sickens me is that the Jazz may wind up tanking for nothing so they will continue in this mode for the foreseeable future. I don't have that many years left and don't want to waste them watching a team that is trying to lose year after year.
 
bopahull said:
I know this years tank is in full bloom. What worries and sickens me is that the Jazz may wind up tanking for nothing so they will continue in this mode for the foreseeable future. I don't have that many years left and don't want to waste them watching a team that is trying to lose year after year.
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I agree that it would suck if Flagg stayed in school and the jazz got the #1 pick
 
I can count on one hand how many times a top prospect chose to stay in college just cuz. Even fewer have benefitted. Furthermore, I feel like I hear top prospects say **** like this somewhat regularly. Also, is he supposed to be talking about his NBA career in the middle of competitive basketball where he currently is?

This means nothing. Also, this really did not need its own thread.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I can count on one hand how many times a top prospect chose to stay in college just cuz. Even fewer have benefitted. Furthermore, I feel like I hear top prospects say **** like this somewhat regularly. Also, is he supposed to be talking about his NBA career in the middle of competitive basketball where he currently is?

This means nothing. Also, this really did not need its own thread.
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Totally agree and highly highly doubt he stays another year,

but NIL has completely changed the game. Before players would be leaving everything on the table. If Dynbantsa can supposedly get multiple millions (I've heard 7 thrown around but don't know), Flagg returning to a really strong Duke may get $10 million+ if their boosters get together. That's not far off from a year one NBA contract from a #1 pick.

Again I highly doubt it, but we are kind of in uncharted waters financially.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
Totally agree and highly highly doubt he stays another year,

but NIL has completely changed the game. Before players would be leaving everything on the table. If Dynbantsa can supposedly get multiple millions (I've heard 7 thrown around but don't know), Flagg returning to a really strong Duke may get $10 million+ if their boosters get together. That's not far off from a year one NBA contract from a #1 pick.

Again I highly doubt it, but we are kind of in uncharted waters financially.
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If a player gets hurt in college does that affect his NIL earnings
 
bopahull said:
I know this years tank is in full bloom. What worries and sickens me is that the Jazz may wind up tanking for nothing so they will continue in this mode for the foreseeable future. I don't have that many years left and don't want to waste them watching a team that is trying to lose year after year.
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Regardless of what happens we didn’t tank for nothing. Stop it
 
Jaanipoeg said:
Totally agree and highly highly doubt he stays another year,

but NIL has completely changed the game. Before players would be leaving everything on the table. If Dynbantsa can supposedly get multiple millions (I've heard 7 thrown around but don't know), Flagg returning to a really strong Duke may get $10 million+ if their boosters get together. That's not far off from a year one NBA contract from a #1 pick.

Again I highly doubt it, but we are kind of in uncharted waters financially.
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It’s less the money in the immediate term, it’s one less potential year on the back end of his career or one year delayed of his non-rookie scale deal. So, still tens of millions of dollars lost.
 
I think the real interesting question is that if the Jazz end up with the SECOND pick, is it better for us if Flagg goes back?

The idea is that we would get Bailey/Harper but would forfeit our ability to choose which one... but next year the top of the draft would be stacked and we would also have another shot at Flagg.
 
we have, what, a fourteen percent chance of getting him, and that's only if other teams don't murder their entire starting lineup just to push us back. as for me, you want to see me LOL for real, i'll even make a video of it if we get #1 and he goes back to school.
 
cctrackstar said:
we have, what, a fourteen percent chance of getting him, and that's only if other teams don't murder their entire starting lineup just to push us back. as for me, you want to see me LOL for real, i'll even make a video of it if we get #1 and he goes back to school.
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A 14% chance at something, in the grand scheme of things, especially for an elite outcome, is great odds.
 
HermanG said:
I think the real interesting question is that if the Jazz end up with the SECOND pick, is it better for us if Flagg goes back?

The idea is that we would get Bailey/Harper but would forfeit our ability to choose which one... but next year the top of the draft would be stacked and we would also have another shot at Flagg.
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I would like him to back if we can't get him this year. Would make next year's draft crazy (and next season of college ball) and would probably help the front office with some tough decisions.

Him staying another year probably pushes Ainge/Zanick to trade vets in the off season.
 
fishonjazz said:
I would like him to back if we can't get him this year. Would make next year's draft crazy (and next season of college ball) and would probably help the front office with some tough decisions.

Him staying another year probably pushes Ainge/Zanick to trade vets in the off season.
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Especially because we could consider a ~30% of either Flagg or Dynbantsa and ~50% of those two plus Boozer if we tank our asses to last place next year. Those are more appealing odds if we strike out bad this year and get good offers for Lauri/Sexton/Collins and decide the current trajectory ain't it.

I'd hate that timeline, but if things go wrong this year and management is down on the group having championship trajectory might not be the worst.
 
it's like a guy drops his purse full of coins on the ground on the way to give it to a homeless shelter and a bunch of lower middle guys are diving to the ground to grab them before the guy picks them back up. sure, the rich are unfairly rich (lakers) but if we played all our players properly, and tried harder, we aren't the worst team in the nba. in other words, as i've said before and i don't care what people think, but we/the Jazz are LYING. (and stealing basically because the picks should go to teams that need them to save their franchise, not so we can hard shift to the championships.)
 
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