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Game Thread Jul 07, 2025 07:00pm: Grizzlies Vs Jazz (Summer League)

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Two things that i think need mentioning as i read through the thread.

First, we know Collier is unselfish, that he can pass and set guys up. We know it and the jazz know it. It would stand to reason that he was told to use summer league to be aggressive scoring the ball. he had 5 assists and 2 of those were to Ace - on both he literally sought Ace out and made it happen.

Second, Collier barely played in the 4th quarter and Ace basically didn't touch the ball in the 4th quarter.
 
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Two things that i think need mentioning as i read through the thread.

First, we know Collier is unselfish, that he can pass and set guys up. We know it and the jazz know it. It would stand to reason that he was told to use summer league to be aggressive scoring the ball. he had 5 assists and 2 of those were to Ace - on both he literally sought Ace out and made it happen.

Second, Collier barely played in the 4th quarter and Ace basically didn't touch the ball in the 4th quarter.
Sounds like some cope. He clearly got benched in crunch time in favor of WCJ
 
Two things that i think need mentioning as i read through the thread.

First, we know Collier is unselfish, that he can pass and set guys up. We know it and the jazz know it. It would stand to reason that he was told to use summer league to be aggressive scoring the ball. he had 5 assists and 2 of those were to Ace - on both he literally sought Ace out and made it happen.

Second, Collier barely played in the 4th quarter and Ace basically didn't touch the ball in the 4th quarter.

Assists =\= unselfish. He’s not a ball mover. Part of that is that he can’t play off the ball but part of that is that he is somewhat of a ball hog. Last night was an extreme case of this, but he has a tendency to dribble the air out of the ball and dominate the possession.
 
Assists =\= unselfish. He’s not a ball mover. Part of that is that he can’t play off the ball but part of that is that he is somewhat of a ball hog. Last night was an extreme case of this, but he has a tendency to dribble the air out of the ball and dominate the possession.
yeah, he's a ball mover. absolutely was ball mover this past season. did he have his moments where he dribbled the air out of the ball? absolutely. but generally, he was a ball mover his rookie season.
 
Assists =\= unselfish. He’s not a ball mover. Part of that is that he can’t play off the ball but part of that is that he is somewhat of a ball hog. Last night was an extreme case of this, but he has a tendency to dribble the air out of the ball and dominate the possession.
And I still don't trust his strategy of just run into the opposing player and hope they reach on the gather vs NBA defenders.
 
yeah, he's a ball mover. absolutely was ball mover this past season. did he have his moments where he dribbled the air out of the ball? absolutely. but generally, he was a ball mover his rookie season.

Disagree with this. He was one of those ball dominant players in the league as rookie. The ball sticks in his hand it often doesn’t leave until he can get an assist. He is not someone who gets the ball and moves it around quickly.

I don’t consider guys who dominate the ball a ton and rack up assists ball movers. Trae Young led the league in assists by a lot, but I would not call him a ball mover.
 
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