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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
His passing and decision-making are there. He should be good with NBA space due to his combination of size and skill. His slow feet do hold him back on defense though.
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I haven't seen anything that's blown me away. His slow feet hold him back on offense as well where he is routinely blocked around the rim by NBL bigs.

I would say the one big hope for him is that he will eventually get much stronger which will improve his inside presence quite a bit.
 
I honestly haven't watched Lopez besides the one preseason game....but I was under the impression that he was a good defender or at the very least a great hustle/energy guy. Could be totally off base on that.
 
I think I feel great about the top 4. Fine with 5-6. Really iffy after that but I can talk myself into a few guys.

I'm sad the FO is letting this weird pride get in the way of just doing the right thing for one more year. From what I've heard at the best buy it matches the narrative that Baby Ainge is less about the tank than Daddy Ainge. Should have waited one more year for the NepoGM
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think I feel great about the top 4. Fine with 5-6. Really iffy after that but I can talk myself into a few guys.

I'm sad the FO is letting this weird pride get in the way of just doing the right thing for one more year. From what I've heard at the best buy it matches the narrative that Baby Ainge is less about the tank than Daddy Ainge. Should have waited one more year for the NepoGM
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We will have only done the right thing for one year, and even if you're not process oriented, that one year paid of well if you're happy with Ace. We needed every bit of that tanking effort to secure him in the draft.

We will care about this winning culture the same amount we care about the 37 and 31 year season, which is nothing at all. We will care about the losing culture from the 17 win season as much DET, CLE, HOU, and OKC care about their multiple years of bottoming out.

I think we end up doing some tank stuff at some point this season. When we do, the question we will ask is "why didn't we do this earlier".
 
KqWIN said:
We will have only done the right thing for one year, and even if you're not process oriented, that one year paid of well if you're happy with Ace. We needed every bit of that tanking effort to secure him in the draft.

We will care about this winning culture the same amount we care about the 37 and 31 year season, which is nothing at all. We will care about the losing culture from the 17 win season as much DET, CLE, HOU, and OKC care about their multiple years of bottoming out.

I think we end up doing some tank stuff at some point this season. When we do, the question we will ask is "why didn't we do this earlier".
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Great post.
Been preaching this for a long time in regards to the whole losing culture thing and being proud that the team tried to win and got to the 30+ win mark or whatever.
 
KqWIN said:
We will have only done the right thing for one year, and even if you're not process oriented, that one year paid of well if you're happy with Ace. We needed every bit of that tanking effort to secure him in the draft.

We will care about this winning culture the same amount we care about the 37 and 31 year season, which is nothing at all. We will care about the losing culture from the 17 win season as much DET, CLE, HOU, and OKC care about their multiple years of bottoming out.

I think we end up doing some tank stuff at some point this season. When we do, the question we will ask is "why didn't we do this earlier".
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100%... there are a bunch of "lol the loses will come" folks on the twitters. They will to some extent, but this is shaping up to be a pretty competitive (or not competitive lol) tank.

And yes... we have done the actual process once. If we wanted to be where Portland or some of the middling teams are next year... that's really easy to do even if we get really aggressive with the tank right now.

We have a lot of opportunities to sit Lauri in key matchups in B2B. Even sitting Nurk in those games would make a difference since our center position is rough without him. Ainge's should kinda demand 15-20 minutes from Taylor/Cody each night. Trade Svi for whatever is out there for him. Do it now or by 12/15. Give Ace some additional responsibilities. None of these moves will kill the culture I promise.
 
With OKC about to win 70+ games this year and draft with the Clippers' pick unprotected, the league will make sure the Thunder don't get the Jazz's pick as well.

Simple prediction.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
100%... there are a bunch of "lol the loses will come" folks on the twitters. They will to some extent, but this is shaping up to be a pretty competitive (or not competitive lol) tank.

And yes... we have done the actual process once. If we wanted to be where Portland or some of the middling teams are next year... that's really easy to do even if we get really aggressive with the tank right now.

We have a lot of opportunities to sit Lauri in key matchups in B2B. Even sitting Nurk in those games would make a difference since our center position is rough without him. Ainge's should kinda demand 15-20 minutes from Taylor/Cody each night. Trade Svi for whatever is out there for him. Do it now or by 12/15. Give Ace some additional responsibilities. None of these moves will kill the culture I promise.
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It's frustrating that our concern is about keeping the pick at all. Realistically, we should be maximizing our chances at top 4 just like last season. Like the objective isn't to avoid disaster scenario, it's to put our team in the best position to win going forward. I've accepted the fact that patience has run out and we're moving forward with Lauri, but with or without Lauri we should be looking to maximize our best asset which is our own pick.

Not everything can be perfect tank wise, but letting pride and the winning culture of 28 wins stop you is ridiculous. I'm can't take any kind of "winning/losing" culture narratively seriously when we instantly forget about it. I would respect it more if we had people complaining about why we have Ace or spreading the gospel about how great it was to win with vets in the half tank years. I'd disagree, but at least it'd be logically consistent.
 
KqWIN said:
It's frustrating that our concern is about keeping the pick at all. Realistically, we should be maximizing our chances at top 4 just like last season. Like the objective isn't to avoid disaster scenario, it's to put our team in the best position to win going forward. I've accepted the fact that patience has run out and we're moving forward with Lauri, but with or without Lauri we should be looking to maximize our best asset which is our own pick.

Not everything can be perfect tank wise, but letting pride and the winning culture of 28 wins stop you is ridiculous. I'm can't take any kind of "winning/losing" culture narratively seriously when we instantly forget about it. I would respect it more if we had people complaining about why we have Ace or spreading the gospel about how great it was to win with vets in the half tank years. I'd disagree, but at least it'd be logically consistent.
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At some point there is a line between we've done everything we can to lose as many games as possible, and we went too far. For example, for me I was ok with Lauri sitting games against bad teams last year, but thought we went too far when we were sitting Kessler as well. The line is probably different for everyone. I'm just curious where is your line?

For whatever efforts we do to make our team worse, we also have to consider the consequences. I don't really believe in losing culture either, but I do believe in young guys developing better by playing with good players (I know you don't believe in this). There are also other consequences like making players/coaches/agents upset that should be weighed against the benefit of increased lottery odds.

I think we should do more to lose around the edges as well, but I think those things would still result in a 20-25 win team and so I'm not too upset with where we are at right now.
 
I'm really missing Keandre (Hoop Intellect) right now. Does anybody know of anyone who is doing anything similar?

I'm looking for quick video guided analysis of strengths and weaknesses.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
At some point there is a line between we've done everything we can to lose as many games as possible, and we went too far. For example, for me I was ok with Lauri sitting games against bad teams last year, but thought we went too far when we were sitting Kessler as well. The line is probably different for everyone. I'm just curious where is your line?

For whatever efforts we do to make our team worse, we also have to consider the consequences. I don't really believe in losing culture either, but I do believe in young guys developing better by playing with good players (I know you don't believe in this). There are also other consequences like making players/coaches/agents upset that should be weighed against the benefit of increased lottery odds.

I think we should do more to lose around the edges as well, but I think those things would still result in a 20-25 win team and so I'm not too upset with where we are at right now.
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Doing the stuff to win around the edges accounts for half of the win total. This Jazz team is not good or built enough to justify losing a top-8 pick with triple swap rights to the league’s preeminent superpower. It is absolutely ridiculous that this is even a debate. At least the ‘22-‘23 looked great to start; this team has eeked out half of its wins (with a ~.316 win percentage/25-win pace) against play-in or worse competition.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Doing the stuff to win around the edges accounts for half of the win total. This Jazz team is not good or built enough to justify losing a top-8 pick with triple swap rights to the league’s preeminent superpower. It is absolutely ridiculous that this is even a debate. At least the ‘22-‘23 looked great to start; this team has eeked out half of its wins against play-in or worse competition.
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We weren't going to start sitting players on opening night, so we win that Clipper's game regardless. We easily could have lost to Phoenix by playing Lauri less minutes. We definitely could have lost to Boston. We beat Indiana by 30, so I think we probably win that one no matter what. We easily lose to Chicago with less Lauri minutes. We probably lose to Sacramento if we sit Lauri for rest.

Yeah, you are definitely right. We should be at 2-3 wins at the most right now.
 
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