I wonder if Black for Kessler could be a base for a win-win a deal. We would need to add but no idea how much.
Trade DL anticipations: New winds or par for the course?
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jom2003
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Nah, the only Black trade that the Magic would do is for a cheaper discount player because of their salary cap situation.
Hendricks/Brice/Collier would all make more sense in that regard.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Before the season started I thought it would be an easy natural tank getting rid of JC, JC, and Sexton. I thought this would be a ****** offense to go along with an all time bad defense. What I didn’t know was that Key would rise to this level of good. Also an underrated part of the problem is Nurk makes this a much healthier offense. He’s a great passer and the best post up big we’ve had since Big Al I think. Key has clearly benefited from his playmaking more than anyone else.
Nurk is the lowest hanging fruit on how to “ethically” tank. Wish they had the stones to let him go sooner than later. I suppose I should ponder the question of a trade more closely, but it doesn’t seem obvious to me who needs Nurk and has the room/matching salary to do so.
Considering their shooting woes, I'd say a Brice/Black swap would be a win/win for the teams.
jom2003
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That'd be a huge steal for us. Throw in one or two of the Lakers/Cavs/wolves pick as sweeteners to get it done.
lmfao you are delusional
Black has been looking like a potential star as of late and he's shooting it better than Brice.
Isaiah 1:13
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That’s what the front office seems to be selling but we’ve been down this road before. It’s really hard to say this season as we’re way ahead of last in terms of games won at this juncture. If I had to speculate though I’d say that Markkanen is off the chopping block. So the question remains, do we start playing the injured reserve game and blatantly tank our fannies off again giving valuable minutes to our fringe second and third stringers while sending our stars on an early vacation? Or do we actually convey the most rigorously protected pick in the history of the NBA?
In either case, I’m not at all convinced that we’re ready or in a position to deal. Assuming that we’re keeping Lauri and Kessler, I don’t really think that we’ve succeeded in restoring Nurk’s market value- with a FT% below 50% and 3 pt% below 30% last I checked. He is not, nor will he ever be a rim protector - and why I’m so chagrined that we let Toronto steal away with Bamba! Like it or not, I think we’re stuck with Nurk for the foreseeable future.
So how about Sensabaugh or maybe Collier? I personally think we’d be foolish giving up on either one of these guys. We wouldn’t consider trading Ace and yet Brice replaces him for two adjacent games and gives us our biggest B2B game wins since I can’t even remember. And sure, Clayton Jr came in Saturday and wowed us with his shooting and poise, but it’s one game and as good as he is or can be will never have the explosive speed or ability to penetrate or pass in traffic like Collier. To me it’s not either or with those two as they’re so different, they provide a strategic option for Hardy depending on the team we’re facing.
So what do we do at the deadline? Chemistry is everything and we definitely don’t want to bring in some grandstander like Trae or Booker that would only compromise that. If in fact, we’re going for it, I say we cut bait with certain first year vets (take your pick) and take a flyer on the waiver and free agent market. I see where Spencer Dinwiddie is available, I’d prolly start there.
In no way saying we wouldn't have to attach more assets to the trade, but we should be getting somewhat of a discount in helping our their cap situation- it shouldn't be even steven.
Park Bites
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I am still all over getting Keon Ellis cheap.
I had not considered Anthony Black but this is low key such a smart post. Jazz were VERY high on him in the draft and there were rumors or reports they were trying to move up.
So why do the Magic trade for him and why do they want our garbage non-star players? If you want Black, you're giving up Ace. That would be valuable to the Magic to turn the clock back on paying a rookie contract player.
Otherwise the Jazz cant really offer them that much. I would guess they either try to offload Suggs for an expiring contract to make room for Black's pay day, or they deal one of Wagner/Palo for huge asset package.
It's much more realistic to think about the Jazz getting Suggs. He's extremely good and fairly paid for how good he is, but he's also perpetually injured.