I'm talking about what gets people excited or concerned about a player. That's all relative to how they view the player in the first place.
Ace Bailey ROY watch
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I'm talking about what gets people excited or concerned about a player. That's all relative to how they view the player in the first place.
I was just clarifying that my concern with Ace's FTr is not a concern with it not being able to improve. The starting point is just so low.
I agree. I was elated we got him because I think/thought the sky was the limit. And, sunk cost fallacy; we put ourselves through hell tanking and right now he looks like the only hope that all of the tanking to this point might yield anything of any value.
Cody is being dragged down by his truly horrific start to the season. Their stats for the last month are much more comparable and better reflect who they are at the moment. Ace is still markedly better on the offense, no questions about it. On defense Cody currently is much better than Ace, though.
framer
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50 and 37 is outfreakingstanding for a rookie that regularly shoots outside of 4 feet.
framer
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What is the mean for all rookies per 36?
I get that, but I just dont see star currently. His best attributes are going to be his shooting and athleticism, which we hope the later translates to elite defense.
He can still average an easy 20 as a role player, so I dont mean he will average low PPG his entire career, but I never see go to star who carries a team.
I think the Jazz need that kind of role player (think Mikal Bridges with more athleticism) more than they need a star. Im sure Bridges could be a "star" on a bad/mediocre team, but he's better as a 3rd/4th guy, which is what I see Ace being.
But even as a role player type, he still needs to be at least average at going to the line.
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Ace's defensive highs are better than Cody's, but Cody is the most solid when it comes to rotations and generally playing sound defense consistently.
I don't think I can find it on my source, nba.com.
But I also do not understand this obsession with the FTA. Yes, even now, in January, Ace gets fouled and goes to the line just once every two games. But that is because he is able to deliver efficient 15-20 PPG - all on wide open threes, unimpeded drives to the rim and uncontested long twos. This is a reflection of his great skill to get open for easy shots. As he gains more experience, adds weight and improves his handle Bailey will add contested shots to his bag.
After all, all of our best players- Key, Lauri, Kessler, Nurk - were able to significantly increase the amount of FTA just several years after their rookie season. Ace will be fine.
But I also do not understand this obsession with the FTA. Yes, even now, in January, Ace gets fouled and goes to the line just once every two games. But that is because he is able to deliver efficient 15-20 PPG - all on wide open threes, unimpeded drives to the rim and uncontested long twos. This is a reflection of his great skill to get open for easy shots. As he gains more experience, adds weight and improves his handle Bailey will add contested shots to his bag.
After all, all of our best players- Key, Lauri, Kessler, Nurk - were able to significantly increase the amount of FTA just several years after their rookie season. Ace will be fine.
Yes it is. Stop being an *******. He is 19yrs old and playing really well. His biggest issue right now is that he lacks strength and because of that tends to avoid contact.