Darkwing Duck
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Well, it was two future first round picks, and one of them averaged 14 points and 9 assists last year, but don't let facts get in the way. And there WAS a Marc Gasol in that trade, too.
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Well, it was two future first round picks, and one of them averaged 14 points and 9 assists last year, but don't let facts get in the way. And there WAS a Marc Gasol in that trade, too.
oldtimer: you're speculating. a bird in hand is worth two in the bush. you're suggesting the jazz gamble more than lindsey did today with this trade, and i completely disagree with you and i think you're the one panicing.
if anything, the fact that the young guys get to prove themselves alone makes this trade worth it. it's time to see what they can do. 3 years of preparation and waiting have led up to this point. and you want to throw this opportunity away? we have untapped potential and possible failures waiting for us. but we won't know what we have until we see it.
if anything, the fact that the young guys get to prove themselves alone makes this trade worth it. it's time to see what they can do. 3 years of preparation and waiting have led up to this point. and you want to throw this opportunity away? we have untapped potential and possible failures waiting for us. but we won't know what we have until we see it.
trigg3r
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Didn't they end up getting the draft rights to Marc Gasol? It actually turned out well for Memphis.
Darkwing Duck
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Going out of town basically now for a couple days. So can't respond to new stuff. 
Hopefully the final roster will be full when I get back.
Hopefully the final roster will be full when I get back.
To me the best part of the trade is we get our cap space back in a year. These are all one year rentals. I agree with that. What scares me is what the Jazz will miss out on in the next year. Your right I don't know what those opportunities are right now I just believe they will exist. As for Curry's ankle and Bogut retirement I agree completely.
yes, Marc was the throw in in the deal. The real prize was the 3 first round picks. All crap. Now which of the three pieces of trash the Jazz picked up today is the next Marc Gasol?
trigg3r
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We also get some nice unprotected picks that may or may not be good. Overall, this was a good deal. The Miller family was going to have to shell out a lot of money anyway seeing as how we were below the floor. Why not do this?
Yea but couldn't our young guys prove themselves without destroying our cap space? I mean why do a bad trade just to force Corbin to play the young guys.
trigg3r
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Do we know how much they valued him at the time? Not really. Whether you believe he was a throw in or not, he is now one of the best big men in the game.
I think spending our cap space on multi year deals for mediocre/over paid players like the ones you mentioned ruins our cap space and hinders our ability to resign our current young players. What if all of them blow up this season. That Mayo or Asik contract would probably keep us from being able to extend one of them.
You're mad because of a possible situation that hasn't even happened and may never happen. The Jazz were presented with an opportunity and they took it. That takes ballzz.
The Fresh Prince
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Wahhhh! We want Millsap and Alfred Jeffermom back! We don't want Ricky Jeffermom! Wahh! Expiring contracts and draft picks suck! Wahh!
But at the same time, play the youth!
....Wahhhh!
Ellipse
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GS needed to clear cap space NOW to get the FA they wanted before someone else snagged him. This made it the perfect time for the Jazz to sell its cap space. Waiting until the feeding frenzy is over for FAs would have lowered the value of that cap space. The Jazz don't want journeyman players on multi-year contracts messing up future deals, so banking that cap space for a year -- and getting two 1st and 2nd round picks -- was shrewed. And speaking of future deals, what's the chances of the Jazz packaging these assets into a top-10 pick in next year's draft?
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Might give us a chance at the #8 seed and ensure we remain in the 40-45 win range for the next 5 years, until Favors, Hayward, Kanter and Burke start to demand trades.
If they do parlay the assets into a top 10 pick I will be the first to say I was wrong. However, for the next year every time there is trade done with cap space it was a missed opportunity.
green
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Two problems with your argument old timer:
1- GS isn't LA. They were a fringe playoff team last year. They aren't competing for titles. They are an ankle injury from two different players who use their ankle every second of every play from giving us a lottery pick next year.
2- would any of the players listed sign a one year deal with Utah? Then I'm not interested.
1- GS isn't LA. They were a fringe playoff team last year. They aren't competing for titles. They are an ankle injury from two different players who use their ankle every second of every play from giving us a lottery pick next year.
2- would any of the players listed sign a one year deal with Utah? Then I'm not interested.
signing one of those players by themselves would not be the difference between making the 8th seed and being in the lottery. I think our young guys are good enough to compete for the playoffs. I don't think they make it, but I have a lot of faith in our your guys.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Maybe, maybe not. I'm sure Lindsey evaluated which teams are facing the tax. For the most part it's teams like Brooklyn and the Lakers, i.e. contenders and teams that are willing to pay the tax. Besides, their picks would be even worse than the ones GS is giving us. And those teams don't really have other assets to trade. The genius of Lindsey's move is he got ALL expiring contracts. And none that will really impact the playing time of our young core. This was a beautiful trade.
Time will tell if I am smart or unreasonable. You cant convince me that getting rid of our valuable cap space for a year is worth 2 picks in the mid 2Os.