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PrinceJL said:
"reverse lottery."

How about this idea of the reverse lottery, where the 14th best record would get the most balls? Also, I would make it that the 14-10th place teams would get an higher probability of getting the 1st overall pick (say 15-20% chance) vs what the current system has for the top 5 (9-25%).

Teams would be fighting for the 8th seed or a 15-20% chance of getting the top pick. This would give the NBA a better product (ie, PHI wouldn't just dump Evan Turner for a ~14M 2nd round pick).

I feel this rewards winning, ensure smarter contracts, & instills the game's integrity. Look if PHX doesn't get the 8th seed, they deserve the 15-20% chance for "Wiggins" & as of today, UTA would get the 6th position (vs 8th).
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I like your idea but what about the teams that are not trying to tank, but just suck. The bucks in my opinion are not trying to tank they just do not have enough talent to compete. The problem with a playoff system for sucky teams (other than its not allowed by the CBA) and the reverse lottery is that teams that suck are not always trying to lose. They need help to get better. Now what Philly did should not be allowed they are really tanking games. The Bucks just don't have enough talent.
 
PrinceJL said:
I haven't posted here in well over a year but I'm gonna make all of your brains explode with these 2 words, "reverse lottery."

How about this idea of the reverse lottery, where the 14th best record would get the most balls? Also, I would make it that the 14-10th place teams would get an higher probability of getting the 1st overall pick (say 15-20% chance) vs what the current system has for the top 5 (9-25%).

Teams would be fighting for the 8th seed or a 15-20% chance of getting the top pick. This would give the NBA a better product (ie, PHI wouldn't just dump Evan Turner for a ~14M 2nd round pick).

I feel this rewards winning, ensure smarter contracts, & instills the game's integrity. Look if PHX doesn't get the 8th seed, they deserve the 15-20% chance for "Wiggins" & as of today, UTA would get the 6th position (vs 8th).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery#Process

BTW, there won't be any "lottery tournament" unless they update the CBA. The players union would then negotiate for more BRI. Will those games be nationally televised? Money aside, do the players even want to participate in said tournament?

https://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/3289/playoff-bonus-money
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The problem i see with this is that, while it would most likely stop the tanking problem we currently have, it would mean all the genuinely bad teams would be stuck picking in the 10 - 14 range. So instead of average teams remaining average by selecting in that range, there would be bad teams remaining bad or getting worse in that range.
 
Or we could just give everybody, 1-14, the same chance of winning the lottery. It'd be like a 7% chance for each team.
 
The averaged method might work. It certainly would stop one time tankers like LA and Boston this year. LA doesn't want to be bad more than one year with those lucrative TV deals riding on their success.
 
i like the all same % idea. or maybe extend the lottery to 5 teams instead of 3. finish last and still have a chance to pick 6th?

the tournament idea scares me, think of the bubble teams that win 50 games in the west and miss the playoffs.... they would wreck the 7 east coast teams with 20 wins. then you have a team already capable of winning 50 games get the #1 pick? talk about eliminating parody.
 
The only thing it would do is hurt small market teams like Utah because free agency is hard for us.
 
Doublea said:
The only thing it would do is hurt small market teams like Utah because free agency is hard for us.
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How would the average method I propose hurt small market teams? The wheel system everyone is talking about would kill small market teams. The playoff method would hurt small market teams as the best teams would win the playoff tournament. The "same percentage method" would hurt small market teams as teams like Boston, Lakers would get the same chances as the bucks (we all know Boston or the Lakers are going to magically win the lottery anyway). The reverse lottery would probably hurt small market teams.

But how would a five year average hurt small market teams? I would argue that small market teams that can't bring in free agents like the laker or miami would benefit the most from the averaged method approach. The lakers will bring in free agents and wont be bad for long stretches at a time. An average system helps the teams that have been bad for longer periods of time which generally are the small market teams.
 
oldtimer said:
I like your idea but what about the teams that are not trying to tank, but just suck. The bucks in my opinion are not trying to tank they just do not have enough talent to compete. The problem with a playoff system for sucky teams (other than its not allowed by the CBA) and the reverse lottery is that teams that suck are not always trying to lose. They need help to get better. Now what Philly did should not be allowed they are really tanking games. The Bucks just don't have enough talent.
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fgcamel said:
The problem i see with this is that, while it would most likely stop the tanking problem we currently have, it would mean all the genuinely bad teams would be stuck picking in the 10 - 14 range. So instead of average teams remaining average by selecting in that range, there would be bad teams remaining bad or getting worse in that range.
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Why reward losing & which teams have been in the bottom 4 consistently in the past 3-5 years?

Toronto's old GM just said that he tried to tank in the 2011-12 season & wound up with the 8th pick. If they won 4 more games, they could've gotten the 5th pick (or 15-20% chance for #1).
 
Doublea said:
The only thing it would do is hurt small market teams like Utah because free agency is hard for us.
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Utah would've been slotted with the 1st overall in the lottery last season in my reverse lottery.
If Memphis or Dallas bumps Phoenix for the last playoff spot, PHX would get the 1st slot in the lottery. Doesn't that team deserve it over PHILLY!
 
PrinceJL said:
Why reward losing & which teams have been in the bottom 4 consistently in the past 3-5 years?
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The draft system is supposed to help those teams that are not good, that is why the draft exists in the first place. Otherwise, just make them all free agents and let the go to the highest bidder. Then we get baseball where 5 teams win it every year. The lottery system was introduced because teams were trying to lose. The answer is develop a system that helps the teams that really need help, but doesn't encourage teams to intentionally lose.

Its about having a league of competitive teams. Where any team could win a championship.
 
Revolution 9 said:
The Lakers will end up with Wiggins or Jabari. book it.

and Coach Corbin and Dennis Lindsey its partly your fault.
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This. I have been saying this for almost the whole season. The Lakers will get pick #1 or 2 and the Celtics will be in the top 3 as well. Don't be surprised when the Lakers pull off some bizarre trade to get another pick in the top 5. Wiggins, Embiid/Smart, Kobe et al compete for more rings next season.
 
oldtimer said:
The draft system is supposed to help those teams that are not good, that is why the draft exists in the first place. Otherwise, just make them all free agents and let the go to the highest bidder. Then we get baseball where 5 teams win it every year. The lottery system was introduced because teams were trying to lose. The answer is develop a system that helps the teams that really need help, but doesn't encourage teams to intentionally lose.

Its about having a league of competitive teams. Where any team could win a championship.
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While I agree that the draft needs to be reformed, the best way to raise the competitiveness of the league as a whole is contraction. Reduce each division by one team, redraft the players into the remaining teams and suddenly every team gets better. The talent pool is just too thin with this many teams, and if you can get 2-3 of the top 20 players on one team you will tend to dominate.
 
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