14th Tank Platoon

[Stifle Tower]

His bench is truly awful. Minutes have taken a pretty big toll on Iggy. He got injured (not necessarily due to the minutes) but since his return he is still forced into a lot of minutes an he hasn't been able to recover. Look at his month-to-month stats. Sharp declines.

AS much as I thought they really downgraded their bench, I was wrong. GS essentially traded Jack and Landry for Iguodala and Crawford. No other significant changes were made, other than having Bogut healthy for most of the season this year. Their per game scoring averages are up and they're holding opponents to fewer points. It's a real puzzle why their record isn't better.

Not that I'm complaining...

 

[Doublea]

AS much as I thought they really downgraded their bench, I was wrong. GS essentially traded Jack and Landry for Iguodala and Crawford. No other significant changes were made, other than having Bogut healthy for most of the season this year. Their per game scoring averages are up and they're holding opponents to fewer points. It's a real puzzle why their record isn't better.

Not that I'm complaining...

Defense mainly. Jack had a big impact on them last year, and injuries have affected them this year too.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Finally LeBron gives us a lift. GSW hopefully crashing is the only redeeming part of the season at this point. If they were able to tailspin into a position that gave us a few more ping pong combos then that'd be awesome. If they had a couple reasonable injuries (not hoping for...

I am. I suck I guess. Oh well.

 

[Nate505]

Burke and Burks = Tank Killers

 

[BTP]

Just watched some highlights. You can't defend that LeBron shot better than Iggy did there.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

AS much as I thought they really downgraded their bench, I was wrong. GS essentially traded Jack and Landry for Iguodala and Crawford. No other significant changes were made, other than having Bogut healthy for most of the season this year. Their per game scoring averages are up and they're holding opponents to fewer points. It's a real puzzle why their record isn't better.

Not that I'm complaining...

Because their bench is worse.

They bring Barnes off the bench, that is it. Crawford hasn't assimilated yet. Earlier in the year Iggy was doing great and playing the role Jack did and helping them win games. That ain't happening anymore and Iggy has been playing really mediocre basketball. Iggy, Barnes, and Thompson have gone through long stretches of mediocre basketball and that is a big reason they are in the 8th spot.

 

[Primetime]

Update!

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]Conf.[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]tank alert(last 10 games)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]Milwaukee Bucks[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]9[/td]
[td]43[/td]
[td].173[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]Philadelphia 76ers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]39[/td]
[td].278[/td]
[td]1-9[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]Orlando Magic[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]16[/td]
[td]38[/td]
[td].296[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]Sacramento Kings*6[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td].340[/td]
[td]3-7[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]L.A. Lakers[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]34[/td]
[td].346[/td]
[td]2-8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Boston Celtics[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td].352[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]Utah Jazz[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td].365[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Cleveland Cavaliers[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td].377[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]New York Knicks*2[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td].385[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]Detroit Pistons*5[/td]
[td]East[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td].423[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]New Orleans Pelicans*1[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td].442[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Denver Nuggets*3[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td].471[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]Minnesota Timberwolves*9[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td].472[/td]
[td]4-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]West[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td].558[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Goden State Warriors: 21st

On the edge in the West​

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[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]Team[/td]
[td]win[/td]
[td]loss[/td]
[td]win pct.[/td]
[td]Last 10 games[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]Dallas Mavericks[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td].593[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]Phoenix Suns[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td].588[/td]
[td]6-4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]Golden State Warriors[/td]
[td]31[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td].585[/td]
[td]5-5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]Memphis Grizzlies[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td].558[/td]
[td]7-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]


*1 Philadelphia 76ers: Receives New Orleans Pelicans 2014 first-round pick (1-5 protected in 2014) via Jrue Holiday trade on 7/10/13.

*2 Denver Nuggets: Receives New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Carmelo Anthony trade on 02/22/11.

*3 Orlando Magic: Receives less favorable of Denver Nuggets/New York Knicks 2014 first-round pick via Dwight Howard trade on 8/10/12.

*4 Phoenix Suns: Receives Washington Wizards 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via Marcin Gortat trade on 8/25/13.

*5 Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Detroit Pistons 2014 first-round pick (1-8 protected in 2014) via Ben Gordon trade on 6/26/12.

*6 Chicago Bulls: Receives Sacramento Kings 2014 first-round pick (1-12 protected in 2014) via J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11 to Cleveland. Via Luol Deng trade on 01/06/14

*7 Atlanta Hawks: Has right to swap 2014 first-round pick with Brooklyn Nets via Joe Johnson trade on 7/11/12.

*8 Chicago Bulls: Receives Charlotte’s 2014 first-round pick (1-10 protected in 2014) via Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

*9 Phoenix Suns: Receives Minnesota Timberwolves 2014 first-round pick (1-13 protected in 2014) via Wesley Johnson trade on 7/27/13.

*10 Utah Jazz: Receive Golden State Warriors 2014 first-round pick (unprotected)


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[tr]
[td]Seed[/td]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]4th[/td]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]9th[/td]
[td]10th[/td]
[td]11th[/td]
[td]12th[/td]
[td]13th[/td]
[td]14th[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td].250[/td]
[td].215[/td]
[td].178[/td]
[td].357[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td].199[/td]
[td].188[/td]
[td].171[/td]
[td].319[/td]
[td].123[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].157[/td]
[td].156[/td]
[td].226[/td]
[td].265[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4th[/td]
[td].119[/td]
[td].126[/td]
[td].133[/td]
[td].099[/td]
[td].351[/td]
[td].160[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td].088[/td]
[td].097[/td]
[td].107[/td]
[td][/td]
[td].261[/td]
[td].360[/td]
[td].084[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].071[/td]
[td].081[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].439[/td]
[td].305[/td]
[td].040[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td].043[/td]
[td].049[/td]
[td].058[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].529[/td]
[td].232[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td].028[/td]
[td].033[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].724[/td]
[td].168[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]9th[/td]
[td].017[/td]
[td].020[/td]
[td].024[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].813[/td]
[td].122[/td]
[td].004[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]10th[/td]
[td].011[/td]
[td].013[/td]
[td].016[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].870[/td]
[td].089[/td]
[td].002[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]11th[/td]
[td].008[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].907[/td]
[td].063[/td]
[td].001[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]12th[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td].012[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].935[/td]
[td].039[/td]
[td].000[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]13th[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td].009[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].960[/td]
[td].018[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]14th[/td]
[td].005[/td]
[td].006[/td]
[td].007[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td].982[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Tank Ranking:
1. Philadelphia 76ers
1. Milwaukee Bucks
3. L.A. Lakers
4. Sacramento Kings


Wins for the worst teams since '03:

[table="width: 700, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]Lotto[/td]
[td]03/04[/td]
[td]04/05[/td]
[td]05/06[/td]
[td]06/07[/td]
[td]07/08[/td]
[td]08/09[/td]
[td]09/10[/td]
[td]10/11[/td]
[td]12/13[/td]
[td]Average since 2003[/td]
[td]Last 5[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]1st[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]13[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]12[/td]
[td]17[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]17,6[/td]
[td]16,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]2nd[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]20[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]15[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]21[/td]
[td]20,2[/td]
[td]18,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]3rd[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]18[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]19[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]23,2[/td]
[td]22,4[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]4h[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]22[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]25[/td]
[td]25,5[/td]
[td]23,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]5th[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]31[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]26,3[/td]
[td]24,8[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]6th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]23[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]24[/td]
[td]28[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[td]25,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]7th[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]26[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]27[/td]
[td]30[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]30,2[/td]
[td]28,2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]8th[/td]
[td]35[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]34[/td]
[td]33[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32[/td]
[td]29[/td]
[td]32,1[/td]
[td]30,8[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

 

[fishonjazz]

7th?
yuck

 

[Doublea]

This last week was brutal for the tank...

 

[colton]

Personally, Id rather not even have the 4 slot. Id prefer the 3rd or the 5th.

Why would you prefer 5th to 4th? The ping pong balls have no memory.

 

[colton]

ya, not hard to understand. Its a game of luck. So far no luck on the 4th pick. Again, we arent talking about doing this thousands of time. Its one time.

1st slot vs field so far...2-14

Somewhere between 2-6 > 1st slot

if we are talking about winning the first pick.

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself. And making my head hurt. What you are proposing is basically the reverse of the Gambler's Fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

Most people who get this wrong would see a 2/14 record for the first pick and say, "the luck is about to change", there must be a greater than usual chance this year. That's obviously wrong, and hard enough for me to understand why people would think that way. That's the Gambler's Fallacy. But what you are saying the is the reverse of that: "Luck has been bad in the past, so it will be just as unlucky this year". That fallacy is so uncommon I couldn't even find a term for it when I googled it just now. It's sort of the Inverse Gambler's Fallacy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_gambler's_fallacy, but not quite.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Because their bench is worse.

They bring Barnes off the bench, that is it. Crawford hasn't assimilated yet. Earlier in the year Iggy was doing great and playing the role Jack did and helping them win games. That ain't happening anymore and Iggy has been playing really mediocre basketball. Iggy, Barnes, and Thompson have gone through long stretches of mediocre basketball and that is a big reason they are in the 8th spot.

Per game averages are better as a whole both offensively and defensively. Definitely injuries have played a huge part. They had that 10 game winning streak when everyone was healthy and they were firing on all cylinders. Since then, various players have been out, a few have struggled with their shots, etc. We can only hope Curry, Thompson, Lee and Bogut get tired legs.

I hear W's are looking to pick up player(s) with their trade exception(s). Don't see many teams out there that need to dump salaries, though. And the W's have few assets to offer as we took them all! Can't trade their 1st rounder for next year. And don't we also have their 2017? That would mean they couldn't trade a 1st in either 2016 or 2018, IINM. Who can they get for whatever 2nd-rounders they have left? Probably no one decent enough to really help.