2 year old toddler dead after shooting himself with his father's handgun.... in USA yet again.
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1 torpedo from one submarine destroys 1 carrier. You know that carrier is not that useful if it is sinking
Which is funny because he used the Mongols as an example...and that was pretty much their battle plan. Either surrender unconditionally or they would just slaughter people wholesale in terms of turning massive cities into absolute ghost towns. The US could do that every easily, but thankfully we don't.
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Why do they need it when it comes to defense? Do you seriously believe USA could invade and conquer top 10 countries if they would combine their efforts? Heck I doubt you would have much luck vs Russia,China and N.Korea combined.
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Mongols at that time were the most feared, organized and powerful army. Their empire ( land conquered ) was largest ever. USA is neither most feared nor biggest. Thats why your statement that USA is the most powerful in history is wrong in my honest opinion.
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IMO, the Roman Empire was the most powerful. It lasted over 2200 years, and had more influence on war, culture, farming, language, religion, technology, literature, etc. Their military powers were unsurpassed. The U.S. is not even close. And honestly, I doubt the U.S. will last even close to 2000 years.
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This article agrees with you. But at least Mongols had the largest empire ever
.https://listverse.com/2010/06/22/top-10-greatest-empires-in-history/
There are countries that have a military and there are countries that use their military. Guess which one the U.S. is?
Before the outbreak of WWII France was the most powerful nation on earth...on paper. They had a military. The biggest, strongest, most capable military in the world.
China has a huge military, with which they have done...?
Russia has a professional and capable military. They aren't a joke. But logistics matters. Experience matters. Even if the U.S. military was only the size of the Russian military we'd still have a very very strong edge. We are light years ahead of anyone else when it comes to logistics. That is not a small advantage.
I already said it, but from WWII, to Korea, to Vietnam, to small South American actions, to Persian Gulf I, and then the Global War on Terrorism, the U.S. has been putting it's military might on the field. You can laugh off what happened in Vietnam, but militarily the U.S. was not defeated. We had the superior force and in any given battle we had greater success than the Vietcong. We lost politically. In Persian Gulf I the U.S. smashed the ever living **** out of what was at the time the 4th largest military in the world. Yeah, check it, Iraq had the 4th largest military in the world before were spanked their *** and sent them to bed without dinner. So you want to compare numbers between China and the U.S., yet China wouldn't know how to fight a modern war if we sent them a manual. There are brilliant men sitting in a think tank right now who have been int he ****, who know what happens in real conflicts, who know what the U.S. and our adversaries are capable of, thinking up 1001 ways for us to defeat anyone and everyone. You can hate all you want, but spend some time on an aircraft carrier and tell me you know how to sink it with one torpedo. GTFO with that silliness. You could chop a modern aircraft carrier into ten pieces and you'd have ten floating pieces of an aircraft carrier.
I worked on defensive weapon systems for six years in the U.S. Navy and served on the USS Nimitz. You want to sink an aircraft carrier. You better eat you mother****ing wheaties son.
Before the outbreak of WWII France was the most powerful nation on earth...on paper. They had a military. The biggest, strongest, most capable military in the world.
China has a huge military, with which they have done...?
Russia has a professional and capable military. They aren't a joke. But logistics matters. Experience matters. Even if the U.S. military was only the size of the Russian military we'd still have a very very strong edge. We are light years ahead of anyone else when it comes to logistics. That is not a small advantage.
I already said it, but from WWII, to Korea, to Vietnam, to small South American actions, to Persian Gulf I, and then the Global War on Terrorism, the U.S. has been putting it's military might on the field. You can laugh off what happened in Vietnam, but militarily the U.S. was not defeated. We had the superior force and in any given battle we had greater success than the Vietcong. We lost politically. In Persian Gulf I the U.S. smashed the ever living **** out of what was at the time the 4th largest military in the world. Yeah, check it, Iraq had the 4th largest military in the world before were spanked their *** and sent them to bed without dinner. So you want to compare numbers between China and the U.S., yet China wouldn't know how to fight a modern war if we sent them a manual. There are brilliant men sitting in a think tank right now who have been int he ****, who know what happens in real conflicts, who know what the U.S. and our adversaries are capable of, thinking up 1001 ways for us to defeat anyone and everyone. You can hate all you want, but spend some time on an aircraft carrier and tell me you know how to sink it with one torpedo. GTFO with that silliness. You could chop a modern aircraft carrier into ten pieces and you'd have ten floating pieces of an aircraft carrier.
I worked on defensive weapon systems for six years in the U.S. Navy and served on the USS Nimitz. You want to sink an aircraft carrier. You better eat you mother****ing wheaties son.
Ships deploy as a battle group. A carrier is never alone. Not only are there subs about but there are multiple AEGIS cruisers and destroyers. AEGIS capable ships have around 100 missiles that can all be fired at once at more than 100 independent targets. The only other Navy with AEGIS capability that I am currently aware of is Japan.
Just to be clear, AEGIS can target more than 100 things at a time and the ship can fire all of it's missiles at once. Not only that, but an AEGIS ship can use another ship's radar info to fire a missile, meaning an AEGIS ship can fire at targets that the ship doing the launching cannot even see on radar.
But yeah, come at a carrier. I'm sure none of our supercarriers have been sunk out of pure luck.
On another note, anyone familiar with the USS Cole? That ship was in what was considered a friendly harbor when a few guys on a rubber dingy loaded with explosives approached and ended up blowing a hole in the side of the ship. 18 U.S. sailors died in that explosion. A sailor aboard that ship left that ship to instruct one of the classes I was in early in my Naval career. A few of his close friends died in that attack. Having his first hand experience was valuable. It made myself and the others he instructed more ready to face future attacks. The attack itself was lessons learned for the U.S. Navy. I was assigned to a .50 cal mounted gun as part of my duty section once I was stationed on the USS Nimitz and I was trained differently as a result of that attack. The standards that were used to determine when to fire at a potential threat changed. That attack was not repeatable.
Not only that, but the USS Cole sails today. The ship was not sunk. It took on a list after the attack but was essentially capable of self propulsion. U.S. Navy ships are built using the knowledge of those who fought in WWII. They don't sink easy.
One torpedo... I really can't stop laughing.
The reason the US isn't "feared" like the Mongols are is because they just slaughtered everyone. However, no country in the world would start a war with the US. Nobody. Because they would lose.
Land conquered is pretty irrelevant. Why would the US want to conquer any more land? Control of resources and economic power matters far more, and that's pretty much our bread and butter.
Time isn't a great measurement. Things just didn't move quickly back in the ancient era. Technology has increased more in 200 years than it ever did in the Roman times.
I don't even buy the Romans had more influence on war/culture/farming/language/etc. US culture is pretty much everywhere in the world other than North Korea (the number of McDonalds in the world for example far surpasses the number of any other restaurant brand in the world...same with Coca Cola and Apple and numerous other brands). US technology is everywhere (think of how we're communicating, and realize that US technology from the transistors in the computer to TCP/IP to the router to the RAM is overwhelming in terms of the final product), the US is the leading agricultural nation in the world, and the fact the US is a world power has helped in English being the most widespread language in the world.
And the US military powers are unsurpassed, though for some reason people here think differently.
Few notes.
1. China does have an aircraft carrier but it's a very old and out dated model and China does not yet have the tech, planes or training to actually launch and land planes from it yet. So till that happens it's useless.
2. N. Koreas subs are A bunch of old, loud and slow subs that would be decimated by U.S. forces.
3. By conquer do we mean win a war or occupy that country?
4. It wouldn't be the US v "the world". Japan, Israel, South Korea, Australia, Columbia, the Philippines and NATO would all obviously join the US in some grand war.
5. Many other states would try and stay neutral such as Mexico, Brazil and India.
6. It would most likely be Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Iraq, Syria, the stains (half dozen countries), Cambodia, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia and Nicaragua.
7. Yes Russia, India, China and others are trying to narrow the military tech edge the US has in certain areas such as air power. However the U.S. is broadening it in other areas. Such as the now functioning rail guns and lazers on board our naval assets and how they are being adapted to aircraft. Also helicopters are a huge US advantage as well.
1. China does have an aircraft carrier but it's a very old and out dated model and China does not yet have the tech, planes or training to actually launch and land planes from it yet. So till that happens it's useless.
2. N. Koreas subs are A bunch of old, loud and slow subs that would be decimated by U.S. forces.
3. By conquer do we mean win a war or occupy that country?
4. It wouldn't be the US v "the world". Japan, Israel, South Korea, Australia, Columbia, the Philippines and NATO would all obviously join the US in some grand war.
5. Many other states would try and stay neutral such as Mexico, Brazil and India.
6. It would most likely be Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran, Iraq, Syria, the stains (half dozen countries), Cambodia, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia and Nicaragua.
7. Yes Russia, India, China and others are trying to narrow the military tech edge the US has in certain areas such as air power. However the U.S. is broadening it in other areas. Such as the now functioning rail guns and lazers on board our naval assets and how they are being adapted to aircraft. Also helicopters are a huge US advantage as well.
Child related gun violence thread turns into nationalistic jack fest. Shocking.
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Typical comment from an American.
Though I admit I'm stunned, just stunned, it turned into a nationalistic argument with the thread title. Again, just stunned.
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Typical Americans, they do that a lot too