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2011 Draft - Who don't you want?

Mother****ing this.

Yeah, we would hate to have a Dirk, M Gasol, P Gasol type player. That would really suck. Seriously with what Dirk is doing in these playoffs you just say a blank no to any Euro. I am sure you would have done the same thing to Dirk or the Gasols.
 
Yeah, we would hate to have a Dirk, M Gasol, P Gasol type player. That would really suck. Seriously with what Dirk is doing in these playoffs you just say a blank no to any Euro. I am sure you would have done the same thing to Dirk or the Gasols.

I wouldn't take Pau Gasol for Raja Bell.

Pau Gasol and Boozer might be the softest bigmen in league history.

Marc and Dirk however, kick ***.

However, you cannot ignore the fact that many foreigners have fallen flat on their faces. AK, Darko, Fess, Radmo, Wang XuXu, Yao, Thiago Splitter, and Raul Lopez all come to mind. Some struggled with the culture. Some struggled with the speed. Some were never scouted properly. And some didn't have the durability to survive a full fledged kick *** physical grueling American 82 game season.
 
I wouldn't take Pau Gasol for Raja Bell.

Pau Gasol and Boozer might be the softest bigmen in league history.

Marc and Dirk however, kick ***.

However, you cannot ignore the fact that many foreigners have fallen flat on their faces. AK, Darko, Fess, Radmo, Wang XuXu, Yao, Thiago Splitter, and Raul Lopez all come to mind. Some struggled with the culture. Some struggled with the speed. Some were never scouted properly. And some didn't have the durability to survive a full fledged kick *** physical grueling American 82 game season.

I have no idea how you are putting over half these people on this list. AK has had a good career. picked 19th or something, Darko ok player but of course should have never been picked 2nd. Fes 2nd round pick. Yao had many good years, Splitter just finished his first year (Popovich should have played him more), Raul was a fine player for us (injury could have happened to him in Europe just as easily). How did that Kwame Brown going first thing work out. Asik was a second round pick and has shown he is a tough guy. Obviously, each player should be judged on his own merits and not by where they are from.
 
I wouldn't take Pau Gasol for Raja Bell.

Pau Gasol . . . might be the softest bigmen in league history.

Wow, really? Before Pau got there, the Fakers were perennial 2nd round losers. After he arrives? Two titles and one other finals appearance.

I find this kind of thinking incredibly curious.
 
Not afraid of them, don't hate them. Nice try though.

Euros just have too strong a track record of not being able to adjust to the US style game. Especially bigs.

It's a whole lot better than American white players' track record. And just because there hasn't been anything good IN A WHILE (except for Marc Gasol, WHOOPS), doesn't mean there hasn't or won't. When you compare the rate of European to American Draftees and the rate that players don't make it, Europeans hardly fare worse than Americans anyway. But don't worry, I can tell you're here to be taken seriously.
 
It's a whole lot better than American white players' track record. And just because there hasn't been anything good IN A WHILE (except for Marc Gasol, WHOOPS), doesn't mean there hasn't or won't. When you compare the rate of European to American Draftees and the rate that players don't make it, Europeans hardly fare worse than Americans anyway. But don't worry, I can tell you're here to be taken seriously.

It has to do with the style of ball and competition level they grow up playing in. American players are MUCh more likely to develop into stars partly due to being used to and able to compete in the NBA style game. The best players come from the US and grow up playing each other. The talent level in Europe is much lower.
 
However, you cannot ignore the fact that many foreigners have fallen flat on their faces. AK, Darko, Fess, Radmo, Wang XuXu, Yao, Thiago Splitter, and Raul Lopez all come to mind. Some struggled with the culture. Some struggled with the speed. Some were never scouted properly. And some didn't have the durability to survive a full fledged kick *** physical grueling American 82 game season.

What the hell is wrong with you?

For every bad european player you can list 40 bad American players. How in the hell do you but AK, Yao on that list? Saying a player wont make it because they are euro or foreign is ridiculous. I don't know why anyone wasted a draft pick Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobli, Toni Kukoc, Detlef Schrempf, Steve Nash, Tony Parker, Peja Stojakovic, Pau Gasol, Vlade Divac, Dikembe Mutumbo, Zydrunas Ilgauska, Tim Duncan, or Hakeem Olajuwon.
 
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