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2011 draft.....

NAOS said:
I'm not suggesting that we draft Kemba at #6, but things could be worse. If he were 6' 4" he'd be the next Dwayne Wade, and he has proven himself to have plenty of grit and mental toughness. Given the drained nature of this draft class, Kemba might be BPA at number 5-7.

I agree with NUMBERICA re:Biyombo... he just might end up deserving a top-10 selection.


right now... I'm more concerned about the value of the 12th pick. I'm not seeing much there that I'm too excited about. And, by God, if we draft Jimmer............
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Sure you can say if he was 6'4 he would be the next Wade, but the fact of the matter is that he's 5'10. Not a worthwhile comparison. If we draft Kemba #5-7 it's a waste of a pick.
 
I think the thing with Bismack is that people probably view him as a defensive only player, where as Favors people view him as an overall prospect.
 
NUMBERICA said:
P.S. Can someone tell me the difference between Biyombo and Favors as prospects/projected players? Sample size and nationality are not answers. I see two young, physically gifted players that have good heads on their shoulders and "upside". Favors has looked pretty good, but a year ago he had a lot of question marks.

If Biyombo is as young as advertised (and that's looking likely) he should be a lock for a top-10 pick in this draft.
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Favors is/was a naturally gifted finisher. He has a natural ability to catch in traffic and adjust to finish with a dunk or a layup. This is a rare ability for big men but more common among guards. Couple that with his overall size and athletic ability to make a great player.

Biyombo has only shown the ability to be a power finisher. On the other hand he appears to have impeccable timing for rebounds and shot blocking. Also something that cannot be taught. I don't know about his ability to handle the ball or shoot jumpers.
 
Hantlers said:
Sure you can say if he was 6'4 he would be the next Wade, but the fact of the matter is that he's 5'10. Not a worthwhile comparison. If we draft Kemba #5-7 it's a waste of a pick.
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This kind of thinking is weak sauce. It doesn't matter that because the overall talent in the draft is moving prospects up. If Kemba is going to be the best player for the next 5 years you have to draft him. If so one else is going to be better. Then you draft him. If the 5th pick this year isn't that great we can't do anything about but cry to our momma's.
 
If the Jazz can't grab Irving, Williams or Barnes (if he declares), Biyombo seems to be as good a pick as any. If Biyombo, Valanciunas and Brandon Knight are on the board when the Jazz pick (with Irving Barnes, Williams already selected), the decision might come down to who's easier to move (Big Al/Millsap or Harris). A frontline of Favors and Biyombo looks pretty damn sexy though.
 
GVC said:
If the Jazz can't grab Irving, Williams or Barnes (if he declares), Biyombo seems to be as good a pick as any. If Biyombo, Valanciunas and Brandon Knight are on the board when the Jazz pick (with Irving Barnes, Williams already selected), the decision might come down to who's easier to move (Big Al/Millsap or Harris). A frontline of Favors and Biyombo looks pretty damn sexy though.
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The potential is amazing to think about. Both play great defense, both rebound, both are long, and both are athletic finishers. It will be interesting to see if Biyombo climbs/falls on the draft board after teams get a better look at him.
 
Wham! said:
The potential is amazing to think about. Both play great defense, both rebound, both are long, and both are athletic finishers. It will be interesting to see if Biyombo climbs/falls on the draft board after teams get a better look at him.
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Neither of them can consistently make anything >15 feet away from the basket is the only problem I see with that duo.
 
Qman said:
Why do you need your bigs to score outside of 15 feet?
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It would be nice to have at least one of them that can make a jump shot, otherwise they're both going to be clogging the lane and getting in the way of each other. Plus a high-low offense is a great one. And we've never had a forward that couldn't hit a mid-range shot. Malone, Marshall, Millsap, Boozer, etc....you've gotta think it plans into how the Jazz think. If we're going to be starting Favors and Bimoyinogo then one of them has to be able to hit a mid-range shot. I'm guessing they would expect Favors to develop a shot.
 
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