green
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I think Bismack is a little over-rated on this board. Defense is valuable, but if you can't play offense, you can't play.
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I think Bismack is a little over-rated on this board. Defense is valuable, but if you can't play offense, you can't play.
Darkwing Duck
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And played in a league with superior players. What's your point?
NAOS
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cmon bentley, you're better than this.
MrBlue
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Ben Wallace? Dwight Howard his first few years? Brian Cardinal in the Finals? Joel Anthony? Jarron Collins? These guys all play(ed). If you watched the most video of his workout, even though he was missing jumpers his form wasn't terrible. He could begin to make similar shots.
He also has one very valuable offensive skill: When he gets the ball around the rim he is going to dunk it every single time. He will be able to finish. Guys like Joel Anthony, Jarron Collins, etc. didn't have that skill. Biyombo does.
At this point my favorite scenario is this Jazz trade #3 to Sacramento for #7 and #35 so that they can draft Knight (who they love). The Jazz take Biyombo at 7 and Jimmer at 12. Then we all know the Jazz can find good players in the 2nd round for #35. Preferably a 2. If not then trade one of either Millsap or Jefferson for a legit 2.
I am beginning to think that Jimmer can become a rich man's JJ Barea (taller, better shooter) off the bench for the Jazz. We all saw in the finals how valuable that is. I for one am not totally ready to give up on Devin Harris.
Devin Harris/ The Jimmer/ Watson (?)
CJ/#35/traded player?
Hayward/#35?/Traded player?
Millsap?/Favors/Biyombo
Jefferson?/Favors/Buyombo
Uh, what? Cardinal can play offense.
green
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Joel Anthony is only good if you have three other All-Stars. We don't. Ben Wallace was fantastic, but he was playing with three or four top five picks. We don't have that either. Jarron Collins? I won't even respond to that. To trade down for Bismack is an awful move. We have too many holes on this team. We need that #3 pick to be a much, much, much better player than Bismack will ever be. If he is available at 12, that is another story.
We are not Detroit people. That Detroit team was stacked, and that's why they won so much. It was not a team of second rounders. It was a team of top picks in the draft. We don't need a Wallace right now. We need a Billups, Hamilton, Rasheed, etc.
It was a joke to the people who ripped Bismack's video. Although, even after lifting weights the airballs were just plain bad.
One on none workouts for Biyambo are definitely counter productive.
green
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Ok, when we get Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen call me with Rodman's #.
When we get mulitple top 5 picks and All-Stars (Rasheed, Billups, Hamilton) give me a call.
Eaton was great, but we ain't winning championships with Eaton. Like I said earlier, we need an All-Star at 3. At 12, we can definitely get an Eaton.
My point is, we need great players, not role players. So we can't give that #3 up. We need it too badly.