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If Singleton's unanimous draft-ceiling is 12, then the Jazz are failing. They need to be trying to get someone else to slide, not seemingly indicate that they're hell-bent on reaching on a guy you might not be able to leave on a court because he can't do anything offensively.
 
See the Jazz workout thread for latest news. Does it mean we are considering Jan Vesely at 3 or are we looking at trading down. Almost no way he is there at 12, but if so it would be hard to pass him up.
 
mellow said:
Yes, there was sarcasm in that post. Last year many of the mocks nailed the top 8 players (perhaps not the order) but 9 was anyones guess. After the draft one of the local reporters, who knew the top 8 were mocked very closely, asked KOC what it was like to draft 9th in an 8 player draft.

KOC responded with some bite that every draft he'd been a part of seemed like there was a drop-off just before his draft postion. He even said something like if the jazz had drafted 6th they would see a drop-off at 5.
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Thanks. Thought so. Golden State taking Udoh that high still has me scratching my head.
 
jazzrule said:
I don't understand the meh for Singleton on this board. When I think of Singleton I think of Shane Battier, I always wanted a player like that on the Jazz. All he has to do is hone his 3 point shot to be that for us.
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Being a FSU alum I certainly like Singleton as a player, but can we do better at 12 is the question?
 
GlassEater said:
I don't see Millsap or Harris as "big trades." KOC - and the Jazz organization - have made trades before to upgrade a position. Giricek for Stevenson and then Korver for Giri. Hornacek replacing Jeff Malone. It's also not unprecendented for the Jazz to have an extremely promising young player replace a popular veteran (Green traded to make way for Stockton). Jazz might be looking at a shrinking cap and decide that having those big salaries for potentially backup players is just too expensive. I won't be surprised if one is moved. My bet is Harris, with the Jazz drafting Knight.
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And how about that 1st ever 4-team trade that brought Donyell Marshall to Utah?
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Singleton's unanimous draft-ceiling is 12, then the Jazz are failing. They need to be trying to get someone else to slide, not seemingly indicate that they're hell-bent on reaching on a guy you might not be able to leave on a court because he can't do anything offensively.
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I guess if you base your argument about him sliding on mock drafts on the internet. LOL. How do you know he isn't ranked higher on actual GM boards. As far as your comment goes about him not being able to do anything offensively (I disagree), weren't you (along with many on this board salivating over the idea of taking Biyombo). If you weren't then I apologize but I recall you talking about how all we needed Biyombo to do is play defense and be able to dunk the ball. He isn't actually an offensive machine.
 
jazzrule said:
I don't understand the meh for Singleton on this board. When I think of Singleton I think of Shane Battier, I always wanted a player like that on the Jazz. All he has to do is hone his 3 point shot to be that for us.
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It's not that simple for starters. He shot OKAY in the NCAA from 3 last year on a very limited amount of attempts and most players don't improve when the distance is farther and competition is tougher. How long were we saying this same thing for AK and Brewer? Wesley Matthews didn't. Have great form but he at least shot and made 3s at a good rate at Marquette. The Jazz are either blowing smoke, they know something we don't (naturally, but what exactly?), or they're stupid enough to be weighing pros and cons between a guy that can shoot but no one knows what else, and a guy that should be able to defend but no one knows what else he will be able to bring at all.

I don't mean to hijack this into another Biyombo discussion, but the one position you can afford to have little offensive skill and you pay a premium for defensive ability is C. Otherwise, you have to be able to somehow factor into an offense and I don't see how Singleton does.

I'd rather have Jimmy Butler, and I think he's the most Battier-esque in this draft (same measurements, college graduate, defense is his calling card but can offer you something outside of it [a little bit of everything], incredibly well-spoken, you won't find a better personality/intangibles guy in this draft, really smart, fundamentally strong, plays team-first and plays to win).
 
I like Jimmy Butler too but he is bottom first or early second. Sorry but if Mark Eaton or Ostertag had any offensive skills the Jazz would have won a championship. Except for a few games throwing the ball into them was pointless and it also allowed teams to cheap on Malone.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Highly doubt that. Throwing a 19 year old kid into the fire like that isn't really the Jazz style. Even DWill, who came out 2 years older than Knight, was given limited minutes the first year.
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I think you mean Sloan style. I am waiting to see the Jazz style post Sloan.
 
Utah Jazz Team Overview

2010-11 record: 39-43
Fourth place, Northwest Division
Did not make the playoffs


DRAFT PICKS:

Round: 1

#3
#12



Areas of Strength:
Frontcourt depth. Led by Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, the Jazz have solid pieces to work with up front. They also have youngsters like Derrick Favors and Jeremy Evans, two athletic bigs with loads of potential. A health(ier) Okur solidifies the first unit and offsets some of the potential sting of losing a veteran like Andrei Kirilenko.
Needs Work:
Backcourt depth. Devin Harris put up solid numbers (16 points and 5 assists) after coming over in the Deron Williams deal, but there are still questions about the guys behind him. Both Ronnie Price and Earl Watson could go elsewhere, leaving the Jazz without a clear option behind Harris.
Two Stats That Matter:
21.5 -- Without Williams around to lead the way, Jefferson assumed the role as the No. 1 scoring option for the Jazz. Both his scoring (18.6) and rebounding (from 9.6 to 11) numbers rose after the All-Star break.
.595 -- For a player as active on the boards as Favors has proved to be, he has to shoot much better from the free throw line if he expects to log crunch time minutes.
The Way To Go:
With two picks in the Lottery (No. 3 and No. 12) the Jazz should be able to get what they need in the Draft. The only team in a more advantageous position is Cleveland (No. 1 and No. 4). The Jazz could use the picks to swing a deal for an established talent, but they need to add bodies to their rotation, particularly in the backcourt. They'll have their choice of virtually whatever they need with the 3rd pick and then with the 12th pick they can fill another position of need with a Lottery talent.
2010-11 Team Stats:
Offensive: 104.9 (14th)
Defensive: 107.3 (24th)
Under Contract:
G: Raja Bell
G: Devin Harris
F: Paul Millsap
F: Derrick Favors
F: Gordon Hayward
F: Jeremy Evans
F/C: Mehmet Okur
C: Al Jefferson
Free Agents:
G: Earl Watson (Unrestricted)
G: Ronnie Price (Unrestricted)
F: Andrei Kirilenko (Unrestricted)
F: C.J. Miles (Team Option)
F: Francisco Elson (Unrestricted)
C: Kyrylo Fesenko (Unrestricted)
-- Sekou Smith

Recent Draft History2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
9. Gordon Hayward20. Eric Maynor23. Kosta Koufas25. Morris Almond14. Ronnie Brewer55. Jeremy Evans50. Goran Suon44. Ante Tomic55. Herbert Hill46. Dee Brown53. Tadija Dragicevic47. Paul Millsap
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