2014 Draft Combine
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i never really wrote any kind of prediction.
but ya'll should know me by now. i did a lot of these.
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...94741&highlight=randle+bother+guys#post794741
Hotdog
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I think that there is a misunderstanding why players get listed with shoes off and shoes on....
It not so much that shoes come in all sorts of different sizes. Because they are all pretty close to the same anyways. It is always listed because clarification is always needed. Someone will always wonder whether or not the height measurement was done with shoes on or shoes off. Its not like someone can just proclaim that all listings will be in shoes or without shoes, because inevitably someone not "in the know", will wonder and ask anyways.
Who cares that the listings come in shoes on and shoes off. Just go with it.
It not so much that shoes come in all sorts of different sizes. Because they are all pretty close to the same anyways. It is always listed because clarification is always needed. Someone will always wonder whether or not the height measurement was done with shoes on or shoes off. Its not like someone can just proclaim that all listings will be in shoes or without shoes, because inevitably someone not "in the know", will wonder and ask anyways.
Who cares that the listings come in shoes on and shoes off. Just go with it.
that's true
there are 3 different height listings
barefoot
with shoes
actual listing height
i just want some consistency. KD is barefoot 6ft 9, and listed at 6ft 9. kevin love was same exact height as randle at 6ft 7 3/4, but listed at 6ft 10! it's a joke if you ask me.
just give me a consistent listing, and don't fool fans. either all barefoot or all with shoe on. i know some dudes wear clown shoes, but at least that's better than some random listings that doesn't even make sense.
seattlejazzfan
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You guys who claim this is the reason that you need a barefoot measurement, miss the point. If player wears A 1" shoe and player B wears a 3" shoe and they are list both listed at 6'9", it doesn't matter what they are barefoot because they are both playing the game at 6'9". Sure when they hop in bed at night, player A is 6'8" and player B is 6'6", but none of that matters for the purposes of basketball. On the basketball court, they are both 6'9".
seattlejazzfan
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I can agree with this. Kevin Durant does not play basketball at 6'9". Not sure why they list him at that height. Pick one and go with it. My understanding has always been that they list shoes on height, but obviously that isn't the case with KD.
Jazz4ever
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Do they play in the shoes they wear at the combine? What if their next pair has an inch lower heel? That's why barefoot is all that matters.
seattlejazzfan
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That's a fair point, but even if they play in a shoe 1/4" higher or lower, it's a more accurate height than whatever they are bare foot.
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Barefoot measurements make the most sense, because they have the most potential for parity, in terms of comparison-purposes.
Sure, the game is played with in shoes-- but shoe heights are completely relative, and it's far-fetched to assume that footwear can be standardized across all of those who perform athletic measurements.
With that in mind, parity trumps logic in this instance, and barefoot height is more useful in my opinion.
Sure, the game is played with in shoes-- but shoe heights are completely relative, and it's far-fetched to assume that footwear can be standardized across all of those who perform athletic measurements.
With that in mind, parity trumps logic in this instance, and barefoot height is more useful in my opinion.
Stifle Tower
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But the player that plays in 1" shoes is going to be measured in 3" shoes if that's the only measurement. All of a sudden a 6'1" guard becomes 6'4" - and his draft position just went up quite a few notches.
Game6Conley
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why did Aaron Gordon not get his hands measured?
Fabtrey does he have small hands?
Fabtrey does he have small hands?