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2014 Draft Prospects - Not so great any more?

I respect Duncan and Nash, but why on earth if you are a consensus top 3 pick would you stay in school for a year. An injury, or even having a bad year could cost millions.

It's been what, 17 years since those guys stayed for 4 years. I really didn't follow things as closely back then, but looking at stats, they were probably not consensus top 3 in their freshman years. I'm sure you are referring to them staying for their Sr years. Point is, things are different. All of the top 2014 prospects are Freshmen. Transcendent players like Lebron and Kobe didn't play NCAA. KD was played a year. As young as possible is the current trend and it seems to be working.

I would be shocked to see any of these guys stay in school unless they had another opportunity for that kind of money. Would you advise your kid or friend to stay in school?
 
Obviously the decisions revolves around money most often. But I don't think you could show that coming out of college early is good for the bulk of the players or the NBA. Barring the one-offs, like LBJ, Kobe, etc. I think the extra time to learn the game properly before jumping to the pros would help most players way more than hurt them. Again, from a playing basketball, learning the game standpoint. Obviously the risk is there monetarily, which is largely why leaving school early is the trend, but it is a tough argument to make that these less experienced players who often still have a lot to learn are helping themselves or the NBA as far as playing the game is concerned. So strictly from a what's-better-for-the-individual standpoint, jumping straight to the NBA is the best course of action. In the best interest of the game itself, and the "product" of the NBA, there is far more to be said about most players staying in school.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Obviously the decisions revolves around money most often. But I don't think you could show that coming out of college early is good for the bulk of the players or the NBA. Barring the one-offs, like LBJ, Kobe, etc. I think the extra time to learn the game properly before jumping to the pros would help most players way more than hurt them. Again, from a playing basketball, learning the game standpoint. Obviously the risk is there monetarily, which is largely why leaving school early is the trend, but it is a tough argument to make that these less experienced players who often still have a lot to learn are helping themselves or the NBA as far as playing the game is concerned. So strictly from a what's-better-for-the-individual standpoint, jumping straight to the NBA is the best course of action. In the best interest of the game itself, and the "product" of the NBA, there is far more to be said about most players staying in school.
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I would argue the opposite because I would assume that by being a professional basketball player they would have more time to work on their skills and work with better coaches.

However, does anyone really know if this is true? When you factor in meeting with media, organizational functions, more frequent games and travel, and longer games do they have more time? I'd still think yes
 
vegas said:
I respect Duncan and Nash, but why on earth if you are a consensus top 3 pick would you stay in school for a year. An injury, or even having a bad year could cost millions.
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Actually, players can take insurance out on themselves to protect them against injury.
https://www.cbssports.com/collegefo...obtained-5-million-insurance-policy-with-ncaa

However, if it were my son, I'd tell him to leave early and take the money. They can always go back to school to get their degree...that will always be there. But their youth, health and talent will only be around for a limited time.
 
LazyD said:
I would argue the opposite because I would assume that by being a professional basketball player they would have more time to work on their skills and work with better coaches.

However, does anyone really know if this is true? When you factor in meeting with media, organizational functions, more frequent games and travel, and longer games do they have more time? I'd still think yes
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There are anecdotal examples out there. Take Danny Granger compared to Gerald Green. Granger has had a much more stable and productive career. It could be argued that staying in college had a real impact on his pro career and coming into the NBA too soon hurt Green's somewhat. To me it comes down to maturity. I think staying in college creates a more mature and coachable player. I think for a lot of these guys college is the first taste of true high level competition and it is a place to learn to listen to the coach, and work on fundamentals and fix some flaws that come from being the best in your local area. Would Gobert be better off in the D League or in college for 2 more years? I think that is debatable, but in my opinion the college approach would yield better results. It would be interesting to see if there is any way to put data to this question, but it is really hard to guess what a player would have been if they had done something different, it is all conjecture.
 
LogGrad98 said:
There are anecdotal examples out there. Take Danny Granger compared to Gerald Green. Granger has had a much more stable and productive career. It could be argued that staying in college had a real impact on his pro career and coming into the NBA too soon hurt Green's somewhat. To me it comes down to maturity. I think staying in college creates a more mature and coachable player. I think for a lot of these guys college is the first taste of true high level competition and it is a place to learn to listen to the coach, and work on fundamentals and fix some flaws that come from being the best in your local area. Would Gobert be better off in the D League or in college for 2 more years? I think that is debatable, but in my opinion the college approach would yield better results. It would be interesting to see if there is any way to put data to this question, but it is really hard to guess what a player would have been if they had done something different, it is all conjecture.
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Word. It can really help build maturity and an immature player should def not go to the NBA. There are examples of people who were better off with college and some better off without. Trey Burke appeared to really benefit from an extra year in college, Kobe Bryant would probably not have been as good as quickly if he attended college, same with Lebron. I would be curious to see some data as well, but I doubt it's possible. Like almost anything, forgoing college is good for some and bad for others.
 
I think there is something to be said for a prospect to stay in school. This would make me covet Parker more if he were to do so. Look at some of the top guys that stuck it out for a longer stint in college. Tim Duncan comes readily to mind...
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True - but Duncan stayed an extra year because Marcus Camby got all the hype in 96 (yeah, things changed)
 
My God look at that difference with the 8th seeds in the West and East this season.

The Jazz could end up in a pretty good place in the draft if the system worked in order to divide the top ten picks equal between the conferences.
 
I still think this is the best draft since lebrons draft.
Maybe not as superstar filled as i once thought, but maybe even more all star filled than i had thought before the season began
 
for Jabari it actually make sense to stay 1 more year

1. for next year he will most likely be #1 pick over all instead of #2 or #3 pick
2. he improves his own image for staying 1 more year
3. he can develop his game more with coach K
4. winning ncaa championship does wonders for overall resume
5. he improves the image of his religion (which is probably very important to him)

yes, there is an injury concern, but it's not like he is a linebacker.

if we aren't getting him this year, i would rather see him stay one more year. maybe we can tank again next year. lol
 
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