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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
I don't think Rozier checks all boxes perfectly, but I think he gets pretty close. The whole Rubio, Rozier, Exum debate would be fascinating. If we are talking about the next 5 years, who makes the Jazz a better team?
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You know Rozier has a worse TS% than either Rubio, DM, or Exum (our three worst in the rotation this year), don't you? He does rebound well and doesn't turn the ball over much. But he's having a terrible shooting year and also has a worse AST% than either of those three.

Edit: a little late on the draw again... Thanks Piso
 
idiot said:
You know Rozier has a worse TS% than either Rubio, DM, or Exum (our three worst in the rotation this year), don't you? He does rebound well and doesn't turn the ball over much. But he's having a terrible shooting year and also has a worse AST% than either of those three.

Edit: a little late on the draw again... Thanks Piso
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It’s trending the wrong direction too... he should have signed his extension they were rumored to have offered him.
 
Piso said:
Rubio : TS 51% ; OBPM -1.3 ; DBPM 0.5 ; VORP 0.4
Rozier : TS 48.4% ; OBPM -1.3 ; DBPM 0.8 ; VORP 0.4

Rubio and Rozier are bad shooters and decent defenders.
I don't think Rozier is the solution. I would prefer Tomas Satoransky.
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Tomas may be a joe ingles diamond in the rough. This wall injury may make him ungettable... I’m intrigued with him for sure.
 
idiot said:
You know Rozier has a worse TS% than either Rubio, DM, or Exum (our three worst in the rotation this year), don't you? He does rebound well and doesn't turn the ball over much. But he's having a terrible shooting year and also has a worse AST% than either of those three.

Edit: a little late on the draw again... Thanks Piso
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I agree about the shooting. I dont think Rozier is the right choice here. But one big difference between the two that makes Rozier a slightly better fit here is he is a good defender, Rubio is not.
 
idiot said:
You know Rozier has a worse TS% than either Rubio, DM, or Exum (our three worst in the rotation this year), don't you? He does rebound well and doesn't turn the ball over much. But he's having a terrible shooting year and also has a worse AST% than either of those three.

Edit: a little late on the draw again... Thanks Piso
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I understand he is having a bad year, but I really value what he did last postseason. I thought he was phenomenal for Boston in the bigger role he played. This year is a mess for the Celtics. Everybody is going through ebbs and flows of success and failure.

But I also have faith in Exum emerging so the Rozier thing is just chatter.
 
latin jazz said:
I'm not proposing the player but the type of PG/SG we should be looking for: Excellent spot up shooter, not ball dominant, big enough to defend 2s, could handle/play off the ball. I can't come up with a player like that who is available (unfortunately Beal is a pipe dream, I like Brogdon, Holiday maybe). For example, 2016 George Hill was a such a great fit in our system.
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George Hill should be available this summer. Unfortunately, that would be the 2019 George Hill.
 
LoPo said:
Seriously though, why not go after Justise?

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article224147795.html

They just extended him to a pretty affordable contract. We would probably have to take back some salary and help get Miami out of the luxury, but I think it could be worth it. Guy is still only 22.
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I think, as much as anything, this kind of thing is why some people are exasperated by your trade ideas. Teams aren't eager to give up their best young prospects just to get out of the luxury tax. They'll try (and invariably succeed) with many, many other options first. And even if they don't succeed, they'll almost surely bite the bullet rather than give up their good young talent. (So no, I don't believe JJJ was truly available for just taking on Parsons' contract.)
 
idiot said:
I think, as much as anything, this kind of thing is why some people are exasperated by your trade ideas. Teams aren't eager to give up their best young prospects just to get out of the luxury tax. They'll try (and invariably succeed) with many, many other options first. And even if they don't succeed, they'll almost surely bite the bullet rather than give up their good young talent. (So no, I don't believe JJJ was truly available for just taking on Parsons' contract.)
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I'm not the first guy to bring up Winslow. And it's not like he is in the same area code as Jaren Jackson Jr in terms of how is perceived around the league. He is a forward playing PG in a league stocked with PG's.

Miami has made it clear that they would like to get below the luxury tax line: https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article220873105.html

Miami is more intent on clearing some contracts and getting out of the luxury than anything else: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-askira-story.html
 
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