2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by LoPo, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. green

    green Well-Known Member

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    I agre...sort of.

    I wonder if it’s more of DL has a trade/signing lined up, the Millers see the cost and they get cold feet.

    “Well, yeah, that would make us better, but look at the cost...”
     
  2. SoUjazzfan

    SoUjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand why anyone would want Conley after it has been repeatedly reported he doesn't want to be here. It will turn into a situation where he has a "toe" injury, or something similar and sits out multiple games or plays with disinterest and becomes a locker room issue. Let it be and roll with the guys who want to be here. At least we lose with a little passion and desire on the court.
     
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  3. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    To me, it is perfectly understandable that DL does not want to trade Exum. If we ever are to compete for a championship, we are 100% dependent on another star-level guy. We know we won`t get any in free agency and we don`t have enough assets to prove for a proven star. As this team in constructed, Dante Exum is the only player with the psysichal tool to develop into that 3rd star. I think there might be something like 30% percent chance that he develops into a solid starter and maybe a 10% chance of him becoming our 3rd star. Realistically, Exum is our best chance of ever competing, as sad as that is to write.

    On the same note, I`d take a flyer on Fultz if he is available for a first. If he gives us another 10% chance of getting a star, we would have doubled the odds of finding our 3rd guy.
     
  4. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    3 hours, 45 minutes.
     
  5. NUMBERICA

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    The chance of landing a star in free agency > the chance Exum becomes a star

    And the dude’s salary is in the way of that, so...
     
  6. candrew

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    I agree - if this is true (and it appears it is) I think The Jazz should pull the plug on this one and look elsewhere.

    F' him if he doesn't want to come to Utah.
     
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  7. fishonjazz

    fishonjazz Well-Known Member Contributor 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    GS isn't mortal. They look it either. Aren't they on a huge winning streak right now? I think they beat the Spurs by like 40 last night

    No one is beating a healthy warriors team in the playoffs.

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  8. framer

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    Why do people believe that Saric is available? Why would the Wolves just trade him and his Niang-like salary? He was the cherry of the Butler trade. I mean if we are speculating on people that aren't available, might as well be slotting Glannis as our power forward. . .
     
  9. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    The jazz have ONE target, and ONE price. Can't deviate. Happy to stay mediocre if they can't get they one guy at that one price. smfh
     
  10. outerspacefan

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    Jazz should not trade first round picks unless they get something that has real chance to move them forward. IMHO Mirotic (or Saric if the guy's available) does not check.
     
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  11. latin jazz

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    Or they are waiting for this deal in order to make another one. We don't know
     
  12. Hedda Gambler

    Hedda Gambler Well-Known Member

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    Does it really? If we are to believe recent reports, Memphis wanted Exum. If all that stands between us and a star is 9,6 million in salary, that is a problem that is easily solvable.
     
  13. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Here's my biggest beef: we have a lottery ticket. There's a possibility it could be a winner. If we walk out of the gas station and someone offers us $100 for the lottery ticket, we rebuff them because, hey, this could be the winner. Never mind that we could go in and buy 100 more lottery tickets, it's possible that that ticket is the winner. I feel like we get attached to our assets and don't value them rationally.
     
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  14. Avery

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    Rockets pushed them to 7 last year and were up 3-2 on them. If Paul doesn't get injured, watch out.

    I'm not saying I would bet against GSW, but it can be done.
     
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  15. NAOS

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    He’s coming off the bench, isn’t thriving, seems to have some fit issues, ...
     
  16. NAOS

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    You’d give up a first for what could end up as 30 games of Mirotic, though?
     
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  17. green

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    I always wonder about philosophies like this...”Utah won’t trade a first...”

    With Mitchell and Gobert, where does that first most likely end up? In the 20’s. What are the odds of getting a rotation player there, let alone a starter who has a skill set and size like Mirotic?

    I’d bet less than 5%.

    Yet a first in the 20’s is a dealbreaker.

    That’s just...dumb.

    Look, I have $250,000 in one hand, but I’m going to give it back so I can have one lottery ticket that has a minuscule shot at winning 10 million, but I’ll probably be left with nothing.

    Smh. Late first round picks are worthless. Always take the player.
     
  18. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think Teague is on the level as a player but the maturity stuff that comes along with Jackson is rough.

    Part of the value in getting Saric would be his low cap amount... taking on contracts to makeup the value is probably not good... was spit balling more than anything. He’s worth more than a first... not sure how to makeup that value to get them some urgency.
     
  19. green

    green Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think trading a Grayson Allen or a Scott Padgett or a Eric Maynor or a Koufos for Mirotic is a waste.
     
  20. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Covington was a bigger get... Saric is coming off the bench playing like 20 minutes a night... not sure he is a fit with KAT... I think maybe comparing him to an mvp candidate is just a touch of exaggeration fella.
     

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