2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[jimmy eat jazz]

The only way for Utah to become contenders is to trade the farm (sans rudy/donovan) + draft picks for a star, a la OKC with PG. Free agents AREN'T going to come here, yet there are so many on this board that believe we need financial flexibility for the summer lmao. To sign who? The Thabos, Udohs, and Niangs of the league? There are THIRTEEN other NBA teams that have similar / better cap space than we do going into the summer, yet this board is so disillusioned to think that we have a shot at top shelf FAs.... SMH

Agreed. Utah IS NOT a major free agent destination. While we may be able to sign the (end of career) Joe Johnson's or Epke Udoh's of the world, we will not sign any major star in free agency. Nor are we likely to draft them on any consistent basis (getting Rudy and Donovon where we did was an anomaly, not something to be counted on in perpetuity, more likely we end up with someone like Grayson Allen). Outside getting lucky in the draft, the ONLY way we're going to get a major, difference making star is to trade for him, which means we have to be collecting assets to make such a trade desirable for a potential partner.

Exum, for example, should be viewed as an asset we can leverage to get someone better--a potential difference maker--as opposed to an indispensable member of our core. He's not a difference maker, but he's an asset we can potentially use to get one. We have no comparative advantage getting FA's in the offseason, but we could create a comparative advantage to get one via trade. That's why I'm disillusioned by another trade deadline come and gone and . . . . nothing.

 

[checkbookdoc]

This season is not very fun as a Jazz fan. It is literally the same team as last year, which we know is not good enough. I was hopeful at the deadline we would do something, anything, to shake it up and make it interesting... but it didn't happen.

Good luck to the team this year, but I am out, I am going to find a better way to spend my time & money. See ya in playoffs or draft... whichever one the Jazz are involved with next.

 

[fishonjazz]

this thread is a constant eye-roll right now. People complaining about missed deals, yet not offereing any real scenarios where the Jazz could have/should have gotten a certain player. And the notion that the Jazz didn't talk to every single team is also moronic. Frankly, Conley is a non-all-star getting paid $30 Mil a year and more for 2 more years after this. We dont' need that. We need our third guy to go with Gobert and Mitchell and I do NOT see who that is that's available. I would love a guy like Beal, or Lillard, or whatever, but guess what, they aren't gettable.

I'm also dying laughing about the people saying we are not getting enough for expirings. Who's giving us assets for our expirings?

The Jazz have made trades most of the deadlines lately and in the summer and apparently they're doing nothing. "Not for stars though...just role players." Mmmkay, who is the team that will trade us their stars for our role players or bad late round picks. Take a break and go outside people. The blinders and hate are killing you...

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[SoUjazzfan]

Exum not in a cast or suit on the sidelines is a start

 

[green]

Because Chris Wallace is an idiot. Waiting all the way to the deadline for someone to flinch and getting nothing in return. Conley's value will not go up, especially if an injury happens. And we got screwed cause they waited all this long, giving us no time to execute a plan B (we couldn't bc we don't have many assets besides our expirings and 1st, which were on the table for Conley)

God. I’m so sick of hearing “so and so screwed is and didn’t let us get to plan B”.

No, they didn’t. You just suck at being a GM.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

All I can say... Dante better be good when he gets back... the Exum Hive versus the Exum Haters could get even worse.

I consider myself an Exum Hive Hater, but we got to put some respect on what Exum can do. DL was smart to value him.

I don't think he's some future star, but he can make a leap.

 

[enchilada_style]

This season is not very fun as a Jazz fan. It is literally the same team as last year, which we know is not good enough. I was hopeful at the deadline we would do something, anything, to shake it up and make it interesting... but it didn't happen.

Good luck to the team this year, but I am out, I am going to find a better way to spend my time & money. See ya in playoffs or draft... whichever one the Jazz are involved with next.

So dramatic

 

[framer]

Oh... I'm pretty sure that's what most probaly will happen.
However, the fact remains that front offices should be accountable. Small market teams (and Utah more than anyone else) need to be careful and effective which I think, broadly speaking, they have been not. Not always thought this way, but now I do.

Yep, the Utah Jazz are a disaster organization top to bottom. Really an embarrassment to the league.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Sounds like the Conley price was crazy. It also never seemed like Memphis was really going to move him. Note that Marc Gasol had stopped traveling with the team, cleared out his locker, etc., while Conley had continued playing games.

Hard to be disappointed because I'm not sure what other deal would have been made. We also traded for Korver a quarter through the season, so not as if we've sat pat.

Ricky has limits as a player and I hate him on the court sometimes, but there's no denying he's super wholesome and a happy guy to have around. I hope that we upgrade in the off-season and the separation is more amicable than a trade would have been now.

Comley was playing because he has incentive based contract based on games played.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

This is headed for us striking out in FA and then panic trading for Kevin Love...

 

[David Stern]

There's a realistic path to the WCF this season for this team if they can avoid the Warriors. Nobody else is a juggernaut, unlike last season. Y'all need to calm the hell down.

 

[outerspacefan]

"Our major acquisition is getting a healthy Dante back. That's like a free-agent signing in itself"

The Alec Burks tale all over again...
I hope DL get serious and just say "ok guys, we lose on everything we try, it seems we overvalued our assets and got confused by our own sacred flexibility/units/no-skipping-steps team policy".