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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

The whole idea behind JJ on Utah was that our offense needed a ball dominant scorer for when Hayward wasnt on the court.

And we kind of need that now with Mitchell. Not saying Parker has to be that guy, but he could be a cheap get and let you get off sub-par contracts like Crowder/Exum.
 
Don't get me wrong I think Jabari could be really good. Incredible athlete. But needs the right system. Let's just trade the coach and then trade for Jabari. Trade quin. And let's run with a lineup of
Dante
Donovan
Ingles
Jabari
Rudy
Even though I'm a massive fan of favs though. Let's get a coach that wants to run. What a exciting team full of athletes
 
1. THJ and Parker are not anywhere close to Middleton and Tobias and Mirotic. There is a ton in between that you can get for less.
2. No, we didn't really have much capspace last summer
3. Jabari and Hardaway are NOT above average offensive players.
4. I don't... or rather... I have more trust in whatever we can get with our 40M of capspace than I do in Frank and Exum.

The positives about Parker are (if you're dealing Exum/Crowder) you get off future money and have more cap flexibility.

Parker might be nothing more than an average offensive player, but he is a guy who can be an average offensive player with a large usage rate. The Jazz could use one of those players to balance out lineups without Mitchell.

The defensive issues do worry me. He has extreme lowlights out there of his awareness/effort level, but how big is the gap between him and Crowder? Crowder has hid own awful moments on defense this year, and he is pretty rough offensively when the opposing defense closes out to him hard.
 
I really think the lineup of
Dante
Donovan
Joe
Jabari
Rudy.
That lineup would be so good. All we need is a new coach!
Think about it Rubio can't shoot. Dante isn't a good shooter either. But Dante is 10 X better athlete, better defender, attacks better. Jabari is better athlete than favs, can run all day. And when we need to steady the play a bit Joe could run some pick and roll. Donovan would do his thing. Rudy would be the great player he is. What a great team. Let's get rid of quin!!!
Think about it. I'm a big fan of favs though
 
The positives about Parker are (if you're dealing Exum/Crowder) you get off future money and have more cap flexibility.

Parker might be nothing more than an average offensive player, but he is a guy who can be an average offensive player with a large usage rate. The Jazz could use one of those players to balance out lineups without Mitchell.

The defensive issues do worry me. He has extreme lowlights out there of his awareness/effort level, but how big is the gap between him and Crowder? Crowder has hid own awful moments on defense this year, and he is pretty rough offensively when the opposing defense closes out to him hard.
This. Jabari very well could be average offensively, but you have to look at this in the larger context. Jabari hasn't been put in to a role where he is needed or relied on, as his teams have had other plans. This isn't any kind of excuse. It's just that if he came here, he wouldn't be fighting to get touches or anything, but our team would actually need to rely on him for offensive production. We have Mitchell and then outside of that we have a lot of guys who aren't even necessarily bad on offense, they just can't create offense and so they're put in a situation where they have to do something larger than their role really would be. See Crowder on teams with other offensive options (sans Cleveland). Hell, even put Royce on the Rockets last year and he looks good offensively. Our offense wouldn't be bad if we had an option or two in there that were legit primary and secondary options.
 
Think about it. If you have ingles. U don't need Rubio. Joe does everything better than Rubio. U only need Joe on the floor. And u put great athletes around that wow. But unfortunately quin the mastermind at stuffing things up. Wants to play Rubio. Smh no reason to play him.
 
The defensive issues do worry me. He has extreme lowlights out there of his awareness/effort level, but how big is the gap between him and Crowder? Crowder has hid own awful moments on defense this year, and he is pretty rough offensively when the opposing defense closes out to him hard.

To me this has been the most disappointing thing about Crowder this season. Everyone always complains about his shooting (and rightfully so because it's been bad) but I've been really surprised by how bad his defense has been. When we traded for him I thought he was going to be one of the best defenders on the team, a guy who could effectively guard multiple positions.
 
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