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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
We gotta go get D'Angelo Russell. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nothin...dangelo-russell-era-brooklyn-nearing-end/amp/

"But whether the Nets attempt to recoup some sort of asset or assets in exchange for Russell or simply let him walk away as a free agent, his departure from Brooklyn is now a matter of when rather than if."

I don't see any internal options because I think Exum is a tweener PG/SG. Rubio isn't the answer. We can't trust some rookie draft pick next year.

Go get Russell

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David Locke recently did a piece on acquiring Russell, and listed some shocking catch and shoot stats (he’s really, really good at corner 3s and mid range, like top 10 in the league or something). He’s a poor finisher at the rim and shooting off the bounce. He inferred that he does better off the ball than as being the primary handler all game.

I think he’d be a pretty nice little 1-2 combo with DM and as the 1 with the reserves for the right price.
 
jope said:
David Locke recently did a piece on acquiring Russell, and listed some shocking catch and shoot stats (he’s really, really good at corner 3s and mid range, like top 10 in the league or something). He’s a poor finisher at the rim and shooting off the bounce. He inferred that he does better off the ball than as being the primary handler all game.

I think he’d be a pretty nice little 1-2 combo with DM and as the 1 with the reserves for the right price.
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Exactly. I think he is the best long term solution at PG that is realistically attainable.

And for those Rubio homers, I dont think this has to mean the end of him either. Its conceivable that we trade something like Bradley, Niang, Neto and our 2019 1st for Russell after January 15. Brooklyn is phenomenal at player development and might see value with Bradley and Niang.

At that point, we just move Rubio to an expanded Neto role and let Exum play the sixth man PG/SG role.

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NPC D4617 said:
Right.

So let me get this straight.

"You dont give a rats *** about a 30 game sample size". But when it comes to Jabari you chose to use it anyways. Then you try to justify it by referencing his ...what, rookie season? Or what, the years he tried to make his way back from ACL tears?

He is still 23 btw.
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And what are you referencing to think he might someday be good? His draft position? His religion?

Jabari, btw, is now out of the Bulls rotation. 4 and 0 minutes the last two games.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, it's a fan blog. It's not meant to be taken seriously.

Its just funny how invested the head guy over there is in Exum. Before the year he was predicting Exum to be the Jazz's 3rd star and how he would have a big year. Now any time Dante plays bad he ignores and blames others. When Dante plays well he says "I told you so" an rants how he needs to play more.
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Sounds like an Exum fan.
 
There's a possibility here that the Jazz have been trying to acquire personnel that fit Quin's system rather than just getting the best talent possible. There's nothing wrong with that, and the Jazz have a consistent culture and set of priorities. The problem is when the players can't actually do enough of what Quin needs done in order to win. These bad shooting nights aren't aberrations anymore. They're all too frequent.
 
Here's a name that might be attainable -- Darren Collison. He's small, and he's on the wrong side of 30 years old, but I think Indiana would be willing to move him. His deal expires this year. It's probably better for the Jazz to think longer term though.
 
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Longer term, it may be in the Jazz's best interest to groom Mitchell as a PG. He doesn't need to be a pure, natural ball distributor, and he doesn't need to be ball dominant. He can be like a more athletic version of Chauncey Billups and be just fine. His ability to get his shoulder by his defender and break the paint, plus his passing ability, make him capable to play the PG.

Exum needs to keep working on his body, keep working on his shooting and probably be a point-forward type like (a poorer version of) Andre Iguodala. I'm just not sure if he'll ever quite be a starting caliber player.
 
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Also, if you consider how much Kris Middleton is going to get paid this summer, Otto Porter starts to seem like a more viable option if the Jazz can swing a trade. The Jazz would have to move out Favors, Thabo and their trade exceptions. Washington would get a potential replacement for Dwight Howard and save on Otto's salary.

If the Jazz move Mitchell to the 1, play Grayson, Royce or Exum at the 2, play Otto at the 3, and let go of Rubio, they might still have some money to play with in free agency.
 
Catchall said:
Longer term, it may be in the Jazz's best interest to groom Mitchell as a PG. He doesn't need to be a pure, natural ball distributor, and he doesn't need to be ball dominant. He can be like a more athletic version of Chauncey Billups and be just fine. His ability to get his shoulder by his defender and break the paint, plus his passing ability, make him capable to play the PG.

Exum needs to keep working on his body, keep working on his shooting and probably be a point-forward type like (a poorer version of) Andre Iguodala. I'm just not sure if he'll every quite be a starting caliber player.
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How about quin just give Dante a go first and then let's talk. He never gets a chance to play only when it's garbage time. Whenever he plays he plays in the corner. I definitely agree he needs to get stronger put on pounds. Jazz need athleticism. Donovan is a great talent. I do think he's a shooting guard though.
 
NPC D4617 said:
NBA Execs and coaches are geniuses. Just ask @LogGrad98 and all the other DontQuestionNBAexecs guys here, they will tell you.
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Not geniuses. Pretty sure they know more than you. I mean maybe not, I guess you might have the inside track on every deal, after all you are a fan that can look at stats, so you obviously would know more than any exec in the league. Sorry to have doubted you in all your brilliance. Please lead us to the next Michael Jordan.
 
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Also, if you consider how much Kris Middleton is going to get paid this summer, Otto Porter starts to seem like a more viable option if the Jazz can swing a trade. The Jazz would have to move out Favors, Thabo and their trade exceptions. Washington would get a potential replacement for Dwight Howard and save on Otto's salary.

If the Jazz move Mitchell to the 1, play Grayson, Royce or Exum at the 2, play Otto at the 3, and let go of Rubio, they might still have some money to play with in free agency.
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I think the Jazz would likely play Porter at power forward, I think he'd make a great stretch 4 for us. Also if we start him at the 3 we'd likely have to go with Crowder at the 4 and we would lose Ingles shooting and playmaking in the starting lineup. I also hope we'd be able to find a better option at starting shooting guard than Grayson, Exum or Royce. I don't think Exum or Grayson are ready to start and Royce is just so limited offensively.
 
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