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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

btw, I’ve pencilled tonight’s game in as a loss. The good things for us are:

1) Spurs play AT the Pistons.
2) Nuggets at Rox. One will lose.
3) Grizz at Pels. One will lose.
4) Lakers at Mavs. One will lose.

The Blazers and Kings should each win at home against the Knicks and Magic, respectively. If one of those is an upset, that’s huge.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
The deadline is 2/8.

I think by about 1/25, we need to see where we’re at. That’s 11 games. If we go worse than 7-4 during that time, that’s unacceptable to me. 8-3 or even 9-2 are definitely possible.

But 6-5? Awful. If we do that, we need to make a move. RoCo and Tolliver’s expiring for Favors, Niang and a 1st might be enough to get it done.

But if we go 8-3 during that stretch and are ascending, sitting at 28-23 with 31 remaining, I think it’ll be tough for Lindsey to pull the trigger on any sort of meaningful deal.
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I think we need to identify players who would improve our team and pursue them regardless of our record.

- Rubio has only had beast 2nd half of the seasons for the last two years. Relying on that again is foolish.
- Favors and Gobert did not share the floor that much against Golden State or Houston in the 2nd round the last two years because we have issues with them both on the floor. Expecting something different is foolish.
- Exum hasn't proven that he can carry the load from a starting PG position.

Rubio is an expiring. Favors could/should be an expiring. A few other guys are gone soon too probably (Thabo, Neto, Udoh maybe). So we shouldn't ignore the rough start to the first half of the season just because we have a decent 11 game stretch....
 
LoPo said:
I think we need to identify players who would improve our team and pursue them regardless of our record.

- Rubio has only had beast 2nd half of the seasons for the last two years. Relying on that again is foolish.
- Favors and Gobert did not share the floor that much against Golden State or Houston in the 2nd round the last two years because we have issues with them both on the floor. Expecting something different is foolish.
- Exum hasn't proven that he can carry the load from a starting PG position.

Rubio is an expiring. Favors could/should be an expiring. A few other guys are gone soon too probably (Thabo, Neto, Udoh maybe). So we shouldn't ignore the rough start to the first half of the season just because we have a decent 11 game stretch....
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I don’t think there are any clear upgrades at pg through trade.
 
I'm still waiting for the day we trade the Tomic draft rights... whatever we get in that trade... will tip the scales in our favor.
 
MCW traded to Chicago because his contract was going to be guaranteed at 5 pm. Houston sent cash. They reportedly did it to avoid salary tax issues. They're getting a heavily protected second rounder that is unlikely to convey. Chicago is waiving MCW. Somebody explain this move to me. Why didn't Houston just waive him? Why are they sending money for a pick that won't convey?
 
infection said:
MCW traded to Chicago because his contract was going to be guaranteed at 5 pm. Houston sent cash. They reportedly did it to avoid salary tax issues. They're getting a heavily protected second rounder that is unlikely to convey. Chicago is waiving MCW. Somebody explain this move to me. Why didn't Houston just waive him? Why are they sending money for a pick that won't convey?
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My guess is the deal was either fully-guaranteed or partially guaranteed enough to put them over the luxury?

There's obviously a reason both teams did this, I'm mostly not sure why Chicago did it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
My guess is the deal was either fully-guaranteed or partially guaranteed enough to put them over the luxury?

There's obviously a reason both teams did this, I'm mostly not sure why Chicago did it.
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This was for luxury savings for Houston. So MCW's contract was $1.5 million. Houston sent MCW and probably around $2 million to Chicago for a 2nd rounder which is protected probably 55-60.

So pretty much, Chicago made $500,000 to save Houston $2 million. The pick will never be conveyed from Chicago to Houston because Chicago won't be one of the top 5 teams in the league this year.
 
infection said:
MCW traded to Chicago because his contract was going to be guaranteed at 5 pm. Houston sent cash. They reportedly did it to avoid salary tax issues. They're getting a heavily protected second rounder that is unlikely to convey. Chicago is waiving MCW. Somebody explain this move to me. Why didn't Houston just waive him? Why are they sending money for a pick that won't convey?
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Chicago makes money because they only pay MCW like $400k and had cap space or a trade exception to do it. They send a fake pick that won't convey and get more than 400k for their trouble... my guess is Houston paid them like a 800K $1m and so they made some dough... Houston does it to save on luxury tax... every dollar they send out saves them 2.5 or 3 dollars. So paying a team $750-$1M saves the owner a few hundred thousand in tax... they likely do something similar with Melo or waive him tomorrow.
 
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