2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Don't know, but you can't go under the pick on him... which is a big deal.

I don't know if any of the grizzlies outside of Jaren Jackson can dunk (only kind of kidding).

Right, defenders won't sag off Conley like they do with Rubio.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The fact that Ricky is a FA this year and could leave to take more money than the Jazz want to pay means the Jazz could be stuck without a good PG. They're motivated to make this deal not only to improve the team, but ensure we have a quality PG for the next two seasons.

In other words, there's a scenario where they're in a real pinch if they don't make a deal for Conley.

 

[Miggs]

If we did Rubio and Exum for Conley, how much cap space would we have this summer should we renounce/opt out of anyone of whom we’re able?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Which is precisely why we’d need to get Niko now.

What if Niko does not get an offer higher than MLE this year? What is his current market? Unless he plays really well last 30 games I'm not sure he gets the 15-20M we think he might get. Hard to see the team that would definitely offer that amount right now. MLE starts around 9M next year... 4/40 seems low for him but that is the type of deal I'd obvi want to get him on... anyone going 4/60? 4/50?

Say he gets traded to Philly and doesn't fit in or he is in and out of the lineup with injuries... I don't think it's crazy.

 

[latin jazz]

Right, defenders won't sag off Conley like they do with Rubio.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Which is precisely why we’d need to get Niko now.

How bummed will you be if we pass on him again ??

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The fact that Ricky is a FA this year and could leave to take more money than the Jazz want to pay means the Jazz could be stuck without a good PG. They're motivated to make this deal not only to improve the team, but ensure we have a quality PG for the next two seasons.

In other words, there's a scenario where they're in a real pinch if they don't make a deal for Conley.

If it was up to me I'd just play DM at the 1 and have Exum/Neto off the bench. Think when healthy that is fine.

I don't think Ricky has a very robust market this offseason and that he'd gladly stay if we were in the same salary range.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If it was up to me I'd just play DM at the 1 and have Exum/Neto off the bench. Think when healthy that is fine.

I don't think Ricky has a very robust market this offseason and that he'd gladly stay if we were in the same salary range.

I think Minnesota might take him back. Teague has really slipped. Kokoskov might like him in Phoenix. Orlando needs a PG to give that team a direction. Teams that want him may offer more than the Jazz want to pay. It's a legit risk.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

The fact that Ricky is a FA this year and could leave to take more money than the Jazz want to pay means the Jazz could be stuck without a good PG. They're motivated to make this deal not only to improve the team, but ensure we have a quality PG for the next two seasons.

In other words, there's a scenario where they're in a real pinch if they don't make a deal for Conley.

I would be perfectly fine with DM at the point. No worries there. If jazz don’t get Conley I won’t be upset. High risk/high reward with shackles until DMs rookie contract is up included. Is the Conley move intended to get us a ship in the next two years? If so great! If not then I feel like we should make more calculated moves to create a contender. We haven’t had talent like Mitchell and gobert in a long time and they are still young. Why make an impulse decision?


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[Jack Strop]

What if Niko does not get an offer higher than MLE this year? What is his current market? Unless he plays really well last 30 games I'm not sure he gets the 15-20M we think he might get. Hard to see the team that would definitely offer that amount right now. MLE starts around 9M next year... 4/40 seems low for him but that is the type of deal I'd obvi want to get him on... anyone going 4/60? 4/50?

Say he gets traded to Philly and doesn't fit in or he is in and out of the lineup with injuries... I don't think it's crazy.

If Utah trades for Conley, can they get under the cap more than $9m? I thought close to $30m was about the max they could get by renouncing everyone, at which point they'd only have space up to the cap and then the room exception.

Teams are actually hurt in a way by dropping below the cap. Its really bizarre, IMO.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

He's pretty small, basically like Chris Paul or Kemba sized. Definitely a more confident offensive player than Ricky, and if he has good targets to pass to he could become better in a system.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Minnesota might take him back. Teague has really slipped. Kokoskov might like him in Phoenix. Orlando needs a PG to give that team a direction. Teams that want him may offer more than the Jazz want to pay. It's a legit risk.

Minny is capped out, Phoenix might offer him some money (but that team sucks), Orlando needs a pg, but they have shooting problems... plus they don't have space.

Also, Phoenix doesn't have meaningful space until they clear Warren or Jackson.

Chicago may overpay for a couple years of Ricky... but I don't see him getting something crazy. His market will be pretty tepid. I think he may end up on a one year overpay or one year make good MLE type offer.