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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Jack Strop said:
If Utah trades for Conley, can they get under the cap more than $9m? I thought close to $30m was about the max they could get by renouncing everyone, at which point they'd only have space up to the cap and then the room exception.

Teams are actually hurt in a way by dropping below the cap. Its really bizarre, IMO.
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Exactly... they'd have the mid-level exception (MLE) of $9M to offer.
 
gregbroncs said:
A bit concerned? I'd be extremely concerned. If we lose Favors they need a PF/C coming back. I've never been sold on Nico, but does he play C? Can he play C on defense for the Jazz? The Jazz funnel players at the C position.
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Maybe concern this season if Jazz dont get anyone off waivers. But next year theyd have the MLE. As a few have noted, Utah is one of the few remaining refuges for old-school 5's. Utah should be able to pick up someone cheap.
 
Douchebag K said:
How bummed will you be if we pass on him again ??
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I won’t unless we come to the end of the summer and have nothing, or are handcuffed from signing anyone because we’re over the cap and neglected to get his bird rights.

Basically, we could end up really regretting not grabbing him. I know that sounds all funny right now, but you’ve gotta be realistic.
 
Catchall said:
He's pretty small, basically like Chris Paul or Kemba sized. Definitely a more confident offensive player than Ricky, and if he has good targets to pass to he could become better in a system.
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He is a bit bigger than CP3 and Kemba, with a longer wingspan than both. But yeah, he is not a big/switchy guard. He plays bigger than his size though
 
infection said:
I won’t unless we come to the end of the summer and have nothing, or are handcuffed from signing anyone because we’re over the cap and neglected to get his bird rights.

Basically, we could end up really regretting not grabbing him. I know that sounds all funny right now, but you’ve gotta be realistic.
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Be honest, you would be like...:D

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The deal for Conley has to involve either Rubio and Favors or Rubio and Exum. Otherwise the numbers don't work. Unless a third team is involved.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
If we did Rubio and Exum for Conley, how much cap space would we have this summer should we renounce/opt out of anyone of whom we’re able?
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Here's your breakdown of that:

I'm assuming the Jazz trade their first round pick, so there is no cap hold for that.

Roster of Gobert, Ingles, Exum, Crowder, Mitchell, Allen, Bradley is $63,883,666 (includes 3.4 million for waiving Kyle Korver)
Roster of the guys listed above plus Neto, Niang, Korver, and O'Neale is $73,169,903 (unguaranteeds)
Cap holds for Thabo, Ricky, and Udoh are $33,282,000
Favors has a team option at $16,900,000

So if you added Conley's $32,511,623 and subtracted Exum's $9,600,000, you'd have a net addition of $22,911,623 to those numbers.

2019/2020 Cap is supposed to be at $109,000,000
Jazz's cap number would be at $86,795,289 with the unguaranteed guys all waived, or at $96,081,526 with the guys they'd probably keep.

So you'd be looking at somewhere between $12-23 Million in cap space. If they were able to trade Korver/Crowder and not take back salary they could open up a max space.

There's always a chance my math is wrong, but I think that's a fairly accurate calculation.
 
Conley A:T of 6.7/2.0 per 36
Rubio A:T of 7.6/3.7 per 36.

Conley commits 1.8 pf per 36.
Rubio commits 3.4 pf per 36.

Conley has 0.4 blocks per 36.
Rubio has 0.2 blocks per 36.

Conley shoots 5.4 FT per 36 @ 84.7%
Rubio shoots 3.8 FT per 36 @ 85.2%

Conley is 48.2% on 2’s/35.9% on 3’s
Rubio is 44.9% on 2’s/32.5% on 3’s

Conley is at 3.7 reb per 36.
Rubio is at 3.5 rev per 36.

Conley has a 55.9% TS%
Rubio has a 51.8 TS%

Conley has a 5.9% TRB%
Rubio has a 6.6% TRB%

Conley has a 33.2% ***%
Rubio has a 32.1% ***%

Conley has a 2.1% ST%
Rubio has a 2.2 ST%

Conley has 5.6 WS
Rubio has 1.9 WS


Conley would be a BIG, BIG individual upgrade over Rubio and also make those around him better due to his ability to better stretch the floor and lead.

I really hope this gets done.
 
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