2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[NUMBERICA]

How is that a disaster? Mirotic is not as good as Conley.

Because the Jazz would just lose one 1st for renting Mirotic.

 

[enchilada_style]

I don’t think Conley’s preference to play in the east is a deal breaker.


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[Avery]

This is all BS. Just bring in Kevin Love and let’s be done with all this posturing ...

I WOULD NOT SAY SUCH THINGS IF I WERE YOU

 

[SCS]

Confused why anyone thinks Tobias staying in Philly is a done-deal. I'm not even sure they offer him the full-max (or that they should, considering he's clearly the 4th option on that team).

He's staying. Immediately after the trade Philly said that they plan on keeping Harris and Butler longterm. They are all in on a core of Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris.

We aren't getting Harris

 

[gregbroncs]

Because the Jazz would just lose one 1st for renting Mirotic.

Ah I see. That would be a disaster. That is why I'm not sold on a 1st for him. Just get him this off season if he wants to be here. He's not a max player so he could be had then. I have no interest in giving up assets for him.

 

[Jingled]

I've been firmly in the get Conley camp but I feel the opposite about Lowry. He's 32 years old and has been banged up this season. His play seems to be declining as well.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is why tanking should be very attractive for small market teams. Both free agency and trade options are a joke! Why would we give up value for player who doesn't want to be here(when they are tied to long-term contract)? Why would we give competitive offers for players that are likely to be gone once their contract is up(for short term contract)?

This is one of the biggest competitive disadvantages in the league for small market teams. There are 3 ways to attract premier talent in the league - draft, free agency and trades. Two of them are rendered obsolete or losing for small market teams. Practically the only way you can rely on is the draft...

The draft only gives the team control of the player for 7 years, at which point they're in their prime and ready to go to a big market on the coast.

 

[The mailman]

Lowry is definitely a lateral move - like most of all players discussed here. Any player that’s not a star is a lateral move. They may make us somewhat better, but they won’t put us over the top.

 

[gregbroncs]

I meant, imagine if the Jazz gave up Rubio, Favors, and 2 first round picks, only to have Conley start to physically decline due to age, and Mirotic deciding to sign elsewhere.

I think there is a real possibility the Jazz does this if Memphis accepts the Jazz' offer.

I don't think they'll trade a first for Mirotic. Not for a rental. They may pursue him in the off season though. That I'm fine with.

 

[gregbroncs]

He's staying. Immediately after the trade Philly said that they plan on keeping Harris and Butler longterm. They are all in on a core of Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris.

We aren't getting Harris

Saying it and being able to do it are 2 different things.

 

[David Stern]

I'd be curious to know why Toronto would be shopping Lowry. Do they want to give his minutes to younger guys, are they trying to dump his contract, or are they trying to get a better player back than him? If we could trade Rubio+Favors and not give up any picks to get Lowry+Stretch 4, I think that'd be interesting.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He's staying. Immediately after the trade Philly said that they plan on keeping Harris and Butler longterm. They are all in on a core of Embiid/Simmons/Butler/Harris.

We aren't getting Harris

He's an unrestricted free agent. I'm sure Philly did that move with the intention of retaining him, but he is yet to be retained and I think the environment there sounds ******, to be frank.