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2020 Free Agency Thread

infection said:
If I were GM, my off-season would be...

[I could live with Udoka]
Sign Udoh.
Sign Shaq.
Sign RHJ.
Trade Mike for OPJ.

That team's payroll is like $10-15M less and it's a better team.
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I’d have drafted Desmond Bane... signed Shaq to a multi year value deal. I might have moved Mike but tough to speculate what actually could get done.

Then I go shopping for bargain rim protectors... Len at the minimum or Nerlens for 5M.

Id have waived NWG and bought a pick in the 50s and used it on anybody so I could get a 900k cap number instead of 1.5M.

Whatever I did I’d make sure I was clear of the tax to not start the repeater clock.
 
homeytennis said:
What happens if they waive Niang, NWG, Morgan and Oni and fill the roster with the bare minimum of minimum wage rookies? Like Toolson and the Seton Hall dude for example.
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They have the same caphold as a vet unless you draft them. So you need to buy picks in the 50s and roster them.
 
infection said:
If I were GM, my off-season would be...

[I could live with Udoka]
Sign Udoh.
Sign Shaq.
Sign RHJ.
Trade Mike for OPJ.

That team's payroll is like $10-15M less and it's a better team.
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The Conley for Porter Jr trade would have saved us so many assets. I think we could have saved at least 3 2nd rounders (we wouldn't have had to dump Tucker or Bradley/Davis). Here is my fear;

- we keep Conley all season
- we have another disappointing playoff run
- Conley just leaves in free agency

All things considered, mismanagement of trading for and then not trading Conley will cost us two 1st round picks, Crowder, Grayson, Korver and three 2nd round picks.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I was just using a full waiver of NWG. I don’t think you can go below 13... so you waive NWG and add in a few 10 days which stack up on the cap.
Honestly I just think they are a little sloppy and will pay tax on like 2M in salary over the tax... or they have another addition and want to give themselves maximum breathing room.
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I'm pretty sure you can't go below 14 for more than 2 weeks at a time.

I'm surely not fully accurate with my back-of-the envelope Excel calculations, but based on my original idea, it seems like that idea of cycling through 10-days and 2 weeks of 13 players on the roster could indeed get the Jazz under the luxury tax if:
- two of Oni, NWG, and Morgan were somehow off the books by about January 10; or
- Niang and one of the three above were off the books by about January 20.

I haven't been able to find when 10-day contracts are allowable for this season yet. My suspicion is that it won't be this early, though the original CBA says January 5. Given that (and given that I don't see the Jazz letting go of Oni, Morgan, or Niang that quickly in any event), I think you're right that we pay the tax. And maybe the idea about the BAE comes into play.

As for me: I'm not ready to go down the rabbit hole of the Jazz made a mistake in their calculations. The Jazz's money moves here might prove to be unwise, but I'm not going with the negligently incompetent narrative.

So barring any more solid information, I'll just conclude my participation in this discussion with:
- I still don't understand the Tucker trade. The only way I can make sense of it is with the possibility I mention here (using it as one step in a larger plan to go below the tax; and without the Tucker trade, this possibility would not exist, I think). But this possibility depends on information that doesn't seem to be publicly available yet.
-Though the path to go beneath the tax might exist, I'm not really expecting the Jazz to use it.
- Unless something surprising happens, I don't like the Tucker trade.
 
idiot said:
I'm pretty sure you can't go below 14 for more than 2 weeks at a time.

I'm surely not fully accurate with my back-of-the envelope Excel calculations, but based on my original idea, it seems like that idea of cycling through 10-days and 2 weeks of 13 players on the roster could indeed get the Jazz under the luxury tax if:
- two of Oni, NWG, and Morgan were somehow off the books by about January 10; or
- Niang and one of the three above were off the books by about January 20.

I haven't been able to find when 10-day contracts are allowable for this season yet. My suspicion is that it won't be this early, though the original CBA says January 5. Given that (and given that I don't see the Jazz letting go of Oni, Morgan, or Niang that quickly in any event), I think you're right that we pay the tax. And maybe the idea about the BAE comes into play.

As for me: I'm not ready to go down the rabbit hole of the Jazz made a mistake in their calculations. The Jazz's money moves here might prove to be unwise, but I'm not going with the negligently incompetent narrative.

So barring any more solid information, I'll just conclude my participation in this discussion with:
- I still don't understand the Tucker trade. The only way I can make sense of it is with the possibility I mention here (using it as one step in a larger plan to go below the tax; and without the Tucker trade, this possibility would not exist, I think). But this possibility depends on information that doesn't seem to be publicly available yet.
-Though the path to go beneath the tax might exist, I'm not really expecting the Jazz to use it.
- Unless something surprising happens, I don't like the Tucker trade.
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PS -- I'm likely wrong about how much 10-day contracts count toward the cap figure/tax line. If so, the possibility I imagined simply doesn't exist.
 
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