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One Brow said:
The taxes replace health insurance premiums, and wind up a net positive overall to taxpayer's take-home pay.
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Don't forget that a single payer will negotiate better rates. Will likely see a reduction in $300 Tylenol charges from hospitals.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Biden Tells Activist 'You Should Vote For Trump' During Greenwood Town Hall

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/joe-biden-tells-activist-vote-034628230.html


Lol the Democratic party...
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What I found humorous was the chant "not one more deportation". This all or nothing thing is really a problem in politics. The abortion debate is an example. Allow every abortion with zero restrictions or restrict every abortion. Lots of times the best answers are in the middle but no one is interested in that any more. To say no more deportations ever is dumb. In some circumstances it will be necessary and the correct action to take. We have lost the art of the compromise. It's why Congress can't get anything done. It's so incredibly divisive in our country.
 
None of the Dem candidates look like they're going to beat Trump in 2020. Biden malfunctions nearly every time he opens his mouth. Warren's momentum seems to have cooled. The progressives think she's a fake progressive compared to Bernie, and the moderates think she's still too far left and out of touch. The DNC and corporate media don't look like they'll ever endorse Sanders. Some media are trying to promote Buttigieg as their new darling, but he lacks substance, doesn't seem to appeal minorities, and the progressives won't go near him. Bloomberg would be an interesting candidate, but given the backlash against billionaires, I don't see Democrats embracing him enough to get the nomination.

The problem with the Dems is that the party's identity is split between moderates and progressives. The DNC hopes that hatred towards Trump will be enough to unite the party behind whichever candidate they can muster. Personally, I don't think that will do it.
 
Catchall said:
None of the Dem candidates look like they're going to beat Trump in 2020. Biden malfunctions nearly every time he opens his mouth. Warren's momentum seems to have cooled. The progressives think she's a fake progressive compared to Bernie, and the moderates think she's still too far left and out of touch. The DNC and corporate media don't look like they'll ever endorse Sanders. Some media are trying to promote Buttigieg as their new darling, but he lacks substance, doesn't seem to appeal minorities, and the progressives won't go near him. Bloomberg would be an interesting candidate, but given the backlash against billionaires, I don't see Democrats embracing him enough to get the nomination.

The problem with the Dems is that the party's identity is split between moderates and progressives. The DNC hopes that hatred towards Trump will be enough to unite the party behind whichever candidate they can muster. Personally, I don't think that will do it.
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The only chance the Dems have of beating Trump is going more progressive, which would mobilize more independent voters. But the liberals seem to want Trump to win again, unfortunately.
 
LogGrad98 said:
What I found humorous was the chant "not one more deportation". This all or nothing thing is really a problem in politics. The abortion debate is an example. Allow every abortion with zero restrictions or restrict every abortion. Lots of times the best answers are in the middle but no one is interested in that any more. To say no more deportations ever is dumb. In some circumstances it will be necessary and the correct action to take. We have lost the art of the compromise. It's why Congress can't get anything done. It's so incredibly divisive in our country.
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And the candidates that could unify the grassroots on both sides of the table get shut down.
 
Jazzta said:
The only chance the Dems have of beating Trump is going more progressive, which would mobilize more independent voters. But the liberals seem to want Trump to win again, unfortunately.
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I think there could have been a play for the Dems where they nominate a more moderate woman as their candidate and then try to mobilize women en masse in a type of battle of the sexes. To do that, however, the candidate would probably have to be Klobuchar at this point, since Kamala isn't cutting it, and she'd be getting a late start.

Going with a more progressive candidate is going to turn off independents more than mobilize them. That's why the DNC is reluctant to go there. The Independents don't typically want HCA, loose immigration and other expensive social programs.

The problem for the Dems is that they'll piss off the progressives when they push out Sanders, like they did in 2016, and those progressives will then be too turned off to mobilize in support of the nominee. This happened to some degree with Hillary.
 
Catchall said:
I think there could have been a play for the Dems where they nominate a more moderate woman as their candidate and then try to mobilize women en masse in a type of battle of the sexes. To do that, however, the candidate would probably have to be Klobuchar at this point, since Kamala isn't cutting it, and she'd be getting a late start.

Going with a more progressive candidate is going to turn off independents more than mobilize them. That's why the DNC is reluctant to go there. The Independents don't typically want HCA, loose immigration and other expensive social programs.

The problem for the Dems is that they'll piss off the progressives when they push out Sanders, like they did in 2016, and those progressives will then be too turned off to mobilize in support of the nominee. This happened to some degree with Hillary.
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I don't mean this with any disrespect to you. I mean that honestly.

But I do find it funny reading what conservatives think independents want.
 
The problem for the GOP is that trump is a non stop dumpster fire.
 
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