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Gameface said:
Yeah I mean I don't really have any specifics and why or how or if they care, but why does the U.S. need territories? If you're part of the U.S. you should be an equal part.
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Do other countries have territories too? (I have no clue)

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Gameface said:
Yeah I mean I don't really have any specifics and why or how or if they care, but why does the U.S. need territories? If you're part of the U.S. you should be an equal part.
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I'm sure the answer to those on high is force projection across the Pacific.

I could see some sort of real voting representation in the House for Guam/CNMI/Virgin (I think that's all the populated territories right? - edit, whoops, sorry to American Samoa). Perhaps some sort of presidential voting too. That probably requires expansion of the House as they are quite quite small population wise. Full statehood seems out of the question, I can't see current states accepting them as equals (and I agree, an island of 50k people as the equal to California sounds ridiculous). I'm not sure about the Virgin Islands, but I know Guam/CNMI have historically voted/worked towards closer relations with the US. They're probably fully aware that as relatively tiny island nations they're going to wind up 'territories' to some world power one way or another.
 
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@Gameface got me looking at real estate in Guam earlier today. Looks nice. Cuisine looks pretty damn good. Saw an article from last summer that crime was really up there though, according to the author, in large part because of what sounded like a ****** legal system.
 
Eminence said:
I'm sure the answer to those on high is force projection across the Pacific.

I could see some sort of real voting representation in the House for Guam/CNMI/Virgin (I think that's all the populated territories right?). Perhaps some sort of presidential voting too. That probably requires expansion of the House as they are quite quite small population wise. Full statehood seems out of the question, I can't see current states accepting them as equals (and I agree, an island of 50k people as the equal to California sounds ridiculous). I'm not sure about the Virgin Islands, but I know Guam/CNMI have historically voted/worked towards closer relations with the US. They're probably fully aware that as relatively tiny island nations they're going to wind up 'territories' to some world power one way or another.
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If the islands were full of white people I'm certain it wouldn't be a problem.
 
The Thriller said:
How pathetic is this?



@colton did you see this?

So Donald’s re-election message is:

Donald hires morons
Donald nominates bad judges

So he deserves 4 more years.
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I feel like we are so close to agreeing with something. The issue is Biden might be more worthless and stupid than Trump is. I would just not vote before I voted for the Donald but it's not like Biden givens anyone a sense of security or hope.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
@Gameface got me looking at real estate in Guam earlier today. Looks nice. Cuisine looks pretty damn good. Saw an article from last summer that crime was really up there though, according to the author, in large part because of what sounded like a ****** legal system.
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So I was there in 2005 so things could have changed a lot, but the place is a complete ********. There is one main street where there are a lot of nice hotels, restaurants, high end shopping, etc. then it's like one big trailer park outside of that. Guam is a jumping off point to explore the Mariana Trench, so that one little strip serves as the tourist spot for them. It has about one afternoon's worth of stuff to do.
 
Eminence said:
I find that... doubtful... Extremely extremely doubtful.
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I mean, it's not that much more absurd than Wyoming having the same representation in the Senate as California or New York. Maybe I'm just more cynical about how quickly conservatives would jump to add a few more senate seats to their party.
 
Zombie said:
I mean, it's not that much more absurd than Wyoming having the same representation in the Senate as California or New York. Maybe I'm just more cynical about how quickly conservatives would jump to add a few more senate seats to their party.
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Maybe so, and if I were re-drawing the lines I certainly wouldn't divide the US up like it is, but I would be fairly surprised if we admit any more tiny states without first having massive changes to our governmental system (essentially the abolition of the Senate).
 
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