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fishonjazz said:
I clicked the link and it wanted me to set up an account so I didn't read it.


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Long story short. She did and does everything she can to be unfair to the poor, who are usually the minorities. No DNA testing becuase that might clear someone she has convicted, parent has to work 3 jobs to pay the bills, so they can't control the kids 100% ... send them to jail. She is a liar, not quite on par with Trump but not terribly far off, and she is a sleeze. She has learned to play the game and has risen to the top, but that does not make her a good person.
 
Beer said:
Kamala "piece of **** sleezy *** hypocrite" Harris? Are you kidding me? I don't care if she came from immagrants, she was a horrendous AG and is a horrible VP pick. Holy christ.
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So history matters now? Kamala’s history? Why can’t we just have a productive discussion grounded in present dynamics??
 
Beer said:
She has KILLED blacks in this country. She is awful. Drug war, truancy war, she is awful in every single way other than being a black woman I guess.
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Also, in that pretending she has been been some anti-law protestor will ring very hollow.
 
One Brow said:
Also, in that pretending she has been been some anti-law protestor will ring very hollow.
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Verrrrry difficult to find anyone who wouldn’t quickly become a caricature. The game is finding someone whose caricature is least alienating or some **** like that.

Kamala is first and foremost a climber and an opportunist. She’s harder to cancel than most. She’ll land good jabs, hooks, and uppercuts from now to Nov 3. She’s on the judiciary committee in case the election gets called into question. She isn’t an ideologue, so we don’t need to go down that divisive news cycle again.

This is far from a perfect ticket. As a progressive, I’m trying to tell myself that she and Biden can both be tugged in this direction once we’re done with coalition politics and getting to the task of governing.
 
NAOS said:
So history matters now? Kamala’s history? Why can’t we just have a productive discussion grounded in present dynamics??
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Past performance is normally at least a decent indicator of future performance. They are not generally mutually exclusive.
 
Beer said:
She has and will make bad decisions. Not sure what the argument is.
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Good news is the VP doesn't seem to have all that much power. I don't ever hear the name Mike Pence even come up.
So hopefully if she sucks that bad then in 2024 the Republicans (and independents) will give us some good options for the presidency.

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fishonjazz said:
Good news is the VP doesn't seem to have all that much power. I don't ever hear the name Mike Pence even come up.
So hopefully if she sucks that bad then in 2024 the Republicans (and independents) will give us some good options for the presidency.

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Except Biden appears to be on his death bed already.
 
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