2020 Presidential election
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JazzyFresh
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I don't know, I just struck a nerve with you for some reason................................
..... Everyone else just let it go...... ....
Nope. you sure didn't.
JazzyFresh
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Positive I did. I mean you were thinking about me, what 8 hours later?
Avery
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Here’s another one for you.
Trump Is An Underdog, But The Electoral College’s Republican Tilt Improves His Chances
Even if you’re not following the polls super closely like those of us at FiveThirtyEight, you probably know that Joe Biden has both a sizable and fairly stable …
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JazzyFresh
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I've heard it all before and it's a worthless conversation. If you want two packed dirty cities to control the entire election that's on you. Trump absolutely destroyed Hillary in counties yet take away two citie and Trump destroyed the popular vote too.Here’s another one for you.
Trump Is An Underdog, But The Electoral College’s Republican Tilt Improves His Chances
Even if you’re not following the polls super closely like those of us at FiveThirtyEight, you probably know that Joe Biden has both a sizable and fairly stable …
Stars Fan
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Sadly, I feel the same way. In "Rage" Woodward says Trump made a hostile taker over of the Republican party and remade it in his image. That rang true to me. If not propped up by the Republicans, Trump would be long gone by now. It will take a long time for me to forgive them.
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Avery
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So why should those in cities not have their voice matter as much? Regardless of rural, inner or suburban, each vote should be counted equally as one.
JazzyFresh
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I hate this conversation because it's simply common sense to me. Do people in LA know what it's like for dairy farmers in Iowa? Should a densely populated area be dictating what happens to them? Should New York be the only city responsible for ranchers in Idaho?
That's exactly what the popular vote does. Is the college perfect? Far from it but look at the population density here. Outside of a few major cities the the entire east would be making decisions for every single one of us.
What's the point in voting if you're from Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Nevada, the Dakota's, Montana? Nobody from the East understands what the smaller states need and visa versa.
Edit and this is a little misleading as far as populatiom not encompassing the entire landmass but it really does show how densely populated areas control the popular vote. Trump crushed Hillary in counties won 2,626 to 487.
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Avery
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I hate this conversation because it's simply common sense to me. Do people in LA know what it's like for dairy farmers in Iowa? Should a densely populated area be dictating what happens to them? Should New York be the only city responsible for ranchers in Idaho?
That's exactly what the popular vote does. Is the college perfect? Far from it but look at the population density here. Outside of a few major cities the the entire east would be making decisions for every single one of us.
What's the point in voting if you're from Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Nevada, the Dakota's, Montana? Nobody from the East understands what the smaller states need and visa versa.
Edit and this is a little misleading as far as populatiom not encompassing the entire landmass but it really does show how densely populated areas control the popular vote. Trump crushed Hillary in counties won 2,626 to 487.
I would agree that the EC is far from perfect. I think we already live in a world where elections are dictated by only a slice of the people in terms of swing states. Outside of representation at the local level, your vote for president in Alabama or Maryland is already booked.
Population density matters in terms of representation. No doubt Trump won more counties that are densely populated. These counties also slew heavily towards his core demographics just as cities would towards D’s.
There’s no perfect solution as Wyoming maybe shouldn’t have as many senators as California, but would agree that representation as a whole is impossible without considering voters regardless of township size and Cali having 19x as many senators as WY is a tough message.
Red
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It takes the world a day to revolve on its axis once. A year to revolve around the sun. How many times, in just one day, does the world revolve around you?
Beer
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I'm conflicted on this. I get the idea of doing away with the electoral college, it is logically sound but I also don't like the idea of 2 or 3 cities that are completely disconnected from 99% of the rest of the country basically running the country. It's a tough one.