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Zombie said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. His case is that we should make Trump's racism and authoritarianism the issue of the election, because it represents an existential threat to the American way of life. Not that we should talk about those issues less.

The way I see it, the candidate with the best chance is the one who will make the case for a vision of America that lives up to our ideals of a truly fair and equal society, and why they rather than Trump lives up to those ideals.
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I'm not saying this as a plug for Biden, but some months ago, well before he became a candidate, he said we were involved in a "battle for the soul of America". I suppose that'd not for everyone, but it always made me feel it was right, because "who are we, who do we want to be, what is being asked of us as a nation of equal citizens?", all these questions are at the heart of the juncture at which we find ourselves. And a battle for the soul of America is a battle for our identity, and that is what we are involved in, and protecting what we created in 1789, and preserving this polity as a force for good, and yes, it is a good idea to drive a point like this home.

We are in a privlaged position, our generation. We get to choose not to let hatred and bigotry be our face to the world.
 
Red said:
I'm not saying this as a plug for Biden, but some months ago, well before he became a candidate, he said we were involved in a "battle for the soul of America". I suppose that'd not for everyone, but it always made me feel it was right, because "who are we, who do we want to be, what is being asked of us as a nation of equal citizens?", all these questions are at the heart of the juncture at which we find ourselves. And a battle for the soul of America is a battle for our identity, and that is what we are involved in, and protecting what we created in 1789, and preserving this polity as a force for good, and yes, it is a good idea to drive a point like this home.

We are in a privlaged position, our generation. We get to choose not to let hatred and bigotry be our face to the world.
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We definitely don't want to be a liberal socialist state.
 
Zombie said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. His case is that we should make Trump's racism and authoritarianism the issue of the election, because it represents an existential threat to the American way of life. Not that we should talk about those issues less.

The way I see it, the candidate with the best chance is the one who will make the case for a vision of America that lives up to our ideals of a truly fair and equal society, and why they, rather than Trump, live up to those ideals.
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Sounds like Bernie.
 
Bernie not paying his workers what he wants all of America to be paid for a minimum wage, then finally doing it when they complained about it to the media, AND then lowering hours so that everybody can get that wage is prime.

I mean, they don't write scripts that well. My goodness. It's almost like that's what some of us conservatives have been saying the whole time!
 
RandyForRubio said:
Bernie not paying his workers what he wants all of America to be paid for a minimum wage, then finally doing it when they complained about it to the media, AND then lowering hours so that everybody can get that wage is prime.

I mean, they don't write scripts that well. My goodness. It's almost like that's what some of us conservatives have been saying the whole time!
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His campaign is literally showing why that high of a wage hike is unrealistic.
 
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