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JazzyFresh said:
I understand the concept and am all for it IF the numbers made sense. They don't and according to some economist we could be paying 40+% of our wages in taxes. This is trillions of dollars were talking about. Trillions.
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You don't know if the numbers make sense. No one does as of right now.

It's more than just raising my taxes. It's also streamlining the whole medical industry. Make less hoops to jump through. Less administrative fees. Regulate costs of procedures. Raise the taxes on the rich by a lot like they used to be. Don't allow the rich to evade paying the taxes that they are supposed to pay. Stop spending frivolously in other areas of government. And on and on and on. There could be ways to make it work that you and I don't even know about.
It works in some other countries already. I think we are a great enough country to make it work here as well.

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I'm just glad there are people out there who are trying to think outside the box and figure out ways to improve the medical industry for us rather than simply saying "numbers don't add up, nothing can be done. Just leave it the way it is even though it sucks."

I want someone with big ideas and innovation to try to improve things.

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JazzyFresh said:
K crunch the numbers for me since it's so easy.

52 trillion for medical alone.
100+ billion annually for schooling
30+trillion for environmental protection.
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Let's take a look. Which source do you want to use? We can start with this:

52T is over 10 years, so 5.2T/year
.1T for schools
1T for EP(30T I can't substantiate anywhere)
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm just glad there are people out there who are trying to think outside the box and figure out ways to improve the medical industry for us rather than simply saying "numbers don't add up, nothing can be done. Just leave it the way it is even though it sucks."

I want someone with big ideas and innovation to try to improve things.

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If Warren becomes president her medicare-for-all plan will never be enacted as proposed. She and her campaign know what’s possible to pass the House and Senate and what is not. They really just want to shift the Overton Window (expand acceptable possibilities). What actually could happen is something like an expanded and strengthened Obamacare along with a very gradual reduction in age for medicare eligibility that over a generation gets us close to medicare-for-all.
 
Harambe said:
Warren is not AOC.

But still. Which source for numbers do you want to use?

Be specific, or stfu.
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Warren, let's stick to healthcare. I asked first, now you answer my question before we divulge into yours. Where is this money for healthcare coming from. Let's see the numbers. I think it's pretty fair for my question to be answered since I asked first.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Warren, let's stick to healthcare. I asked first, now you answer my question before we divulge into yours. Where is this money for healthcare coming from. Let's see the numbers. I think it's pretty fair for my question to be answered since I asked first.
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Let's look. Let's find out where we can get it, and if we can get it.

Which source do you want to use?
 
JazzyFresh said:
Warren, let's stick to healthcare. I asked first, now you answer my question before we divulge into yours. Where is this money for healthcare coming from. Let's see the numbers. I think it's pretty fair for my question to be answered since I asked first.
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If you are really this curious why don't you just look the numbers up? They are out there, you know.
 
Jonah said:
If Warren becomes president her medicare-for-all plan will never be enacted as proposed. She and her campaign know what’s possible to pass the House and Senate and what is not. They really just want to shift the Overton Window (expand acceptable possibilities). What actually could happen is something like an expanded and strengthened Obamacare along with a very gradual reduction in age for medicare eligibility that over a generation gets us close to medicare-for-all.
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Agreed.

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