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The Thriller said:
Yep. Biden saying weird things. If we had known that he would do this. If only he had a history of gaffes...

He’s not a perfect public speaker. He has overcome (mostly) a stuttering disability. Then again, I’m old to remember when we had a very articulate black President who was criticized for being too articulate, smart, and cold.

But are we basing our voting decisions today on how well someone speaks publicly? Or are we basing voting decisions today on who is not a narcissist and who will stop shredding our democratic norms, respect our allies, stand up to despots, and return some semblance of political normalcy to the White House? Answer me @infection, what’s more important to you?
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I agree that a lot of the criticisms of Biden are blown out of proportion, but I'm really hoping that he is not the nominee.

Now if he is and Trump is the Republican choice, it's a no brainer. Biden all day every day. He is a competent politician. A reasonably decent person as far as I can see based on his PR managed image.
 
Catchall said:
This isn't as bad as nibbling on his wife's finger right after she called him President of the United States at a rally a week ago, but ultimately it doesn't matter. Joe is clearly losing his marbles. There's just no way he's going to make it through. He needs to retire and take it easy.
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Of the 4 people with a chance (Biden, Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren) he is at the bottom of my list.
 
The Thriller said:
Just curious, how many of you commenting about this hadn't seen this playful nibbling until I posted it?
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I saw it several days ago, laughed, and agree I just saw it as playful, nothing more meaningful then that. Certainly not a negative commentary on himself, it was just a funny, playful moment. No more then that. I mean, what's the Never Biden interpretation? Maybe something along these lines: "Suddenly, Biden, hearing voices in his head whispering 'bite her, bite your wife! I command you!', lunged forward and bit his wife's finger. He belongs in a straight jacket!!".
 
One Brow said:
You mean, if he doesn't get outvoted by another candidate?
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Yes, that’s what I meant. Which if that were to happen it would show that the media is doing a flawless job of keeping the outside thinking candidates out of the picture, as this appears to be their assignment.
 
Jazzta said:
Of those 4 only Sanders stands a chance really. If... he doesn’t get “Clintoned” again.
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Buttegieg is the only one with a chance. There aren't enough moderates and independents who would vote for a far left candidate like Sanders or Warren and their extreme policies in a general election. Biden is not beating Trump. He would lose the debates badly. Democrats may or may not know it but they need Buttegieg to keep gaining support.
 
SCS said:
Buttegieg is the only one with a chance. There aren't enough moderates and independents who would vote for a far left candidate like Sanders or Warren and their extreme policies in a general election. Biden is not beating Trump. He would lose the debates badly. Democrats may or may not know it but they need Buttegieg to keep gaining support.
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Buttegieg will depress the hell out of Dem turnout which matters a lot more than gaining so called moderates.
 
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