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I don't think Trump has many arrows in his quiver against Bernie other than the Socialism bogeyman. Compared to the other democratic candidates he's clean as a whistle and has a remarkably consistent record on his policy going back decades and has the most fervent followers. (not unlike trump) No question he's a populist and the parallels to trump are a bit eerie, but I'm increasingly of the conviction that he's the antidote. Warren has shown herself bizarrely vulnerable to Trump's goading. Can't take here seriously after her bogus native american ancestry claim. I appreciate Pete's clear intelligence but it's way too easy to follow the money that shows he's beholden to corporate interests. Biden is dead in the water. Amy, to be honest I haven't made up my mind about her. If I didn't like Bernie so much I might consider her if I were an American democrat. (feel free to ignore this editorial BS, salty after consistent f word-wittery by the liberal media elite.)

What I really wanted to post was this. Yup, Iowa demonstrably shady as hell.


Oh, I'll leave this here as well, because it's something I've picked up on and I'm glad someone else is highlighting it who has a bigger platform than I do.
 
First she pillages off of the Natives now it's the poor.



I used to like her too but she's too fake to trust.
 
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Zombie said:
I'm not sure that someone choosing to donate three dollars counts as "pillaging," but I don't think I'd be highlighting it as a candidate either.
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Yeah I was reaching a bit there(being facetious) except I do feel her claiming to be a Native for personal gain is absolutely terrible. People bag on Trump but I think that's worse than anything he's ever done.
 
AverageJoe said:
I don't think Trump has many arrows in his quiver against Bernie other than the Socialism bogeyman. Compared to the other democratic candidates he's clean as a whistle and has a remarkably consistent record on his policy going back decades and has the most fervent followers. (not unlike trump) No question he's a populist and the parallels to trump are a bit eerie, but I'm increasingly of the conviction that he's the antidote. Warren has shown herself bizarrely vulnerable to Trump's goading. Can't take here seriously after her bogus native american ancestry claim. I appreciate Pete's clear intelligence but it's way too easy to follow the money that shows he's beholden to corporate interests. Biden is dead in the water. Amy, to be honest I haven't made up my mind about her. If I didn't like Bernie so much I might consider her if I were an American democrat. (feel free to ignore this editorial BS, salty after consistent f word-wittery by the liberal media elite.)

What I really wanted to post was this. Yup, Iowa demonstrably shady as hell.


Oh, I'll leave this here as well, because it's something I've picked up on and I'm glad someone else is highlighting it who has a bigger platform than I do.
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Good post
Bernie is my favorite (I loved him last time around. ****ing Clinton) but his age worries me. Not enough that he wouldn't get my vote but he is old as hell. (Of course so is Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if trump died from some kind of health thing in the next few years.)

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JazzyFresh said:
Yeah I was reaching a bit there(being facetious) except I do feel her claiming to be a Native for personal gain is absolutely terrible. People bag on Trump but I think that's worse than anything he's ever done.
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Anything he has ever done? He cheated on multiple pregnant wives. He paid a porn star to keep quiet after cheating on his wife with her. He stole from multiple charities. Stole from veterans. Made up a fake college. He has been accused of sexual harrasment/assault numerous times going back to before he was president. I mean the list is much much longer than just those. Come on man
You say Warren lied for personal gain (she said she truly believed what she was claiming because her family had told her about her native American heritage). Trump lies/commits fraud/ abuses presidential power for personal gain all the time
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JazzyFresh said:
Yeah I was reaching a bit there(being facetious) except I do feel her claiming to be a Native for personal gain is absolutely terrible. People bag on Trump but I think that's worse than anything he's ever done.
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She didn't gain anything by listing Native American on her paperwork AFTER she was hired.
 
Lol, I though I was ignored.

Let's also not forget those who just quit her campaign due to racism. But... Nobody seems cares about racism unless they can use the subject for political gain. I mean if I were to claim I was black to get a heads up in school id consider myself racist. Funny thing is, people here say it hurts noone yet even she recognizes what she did was flat out wrong.
"Like anyone who's been honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused."
 
JazzyFresh said:
Let's also not forget those who just quit her campaign due to racism.
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See, once in a while you can come up with a genuine concern. I'm hoping it's more than a blind squirrel finding a nut.

JazzyFresh said:
Funny thing is, people here say it hurts noone yet even she recognizes what she did was flat out wrong.
"Like anyone who's been honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm I have caused."
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1) It was wrong for Warren to claim to be native American.
2) It was not for personal gain, as you claimed.
3) It did hurt actual tribal members by trivializing them.

Is that clear enough?
 
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