2021-2022 College Football Board (Utes, Cougars, and Aggies)

[fishonjazz]

Great move by BYU. The restructured Big 12 is going to be a fun conference for hard core college fans.

I mentioned this in another thread but another good thing about joining the restructured big12 is that the new big12 lacks a superteam so BYU actually has a chance to win the conference (though they would still be underdogs for sure).
In basketball however they will be lucky to win half their games lol. No more guaranteed 20 + win seasons like in the wcc.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I mentioned this in another thread but another good thing about joining the restructured big12 is that the new big12 lacks a superteam so BYU actually has a chance to win the conference (though they would still be underdogs for sure).
In basketball however they will be lucky to win half their games lol. No more guaranteed 20 + win seasons like in the wcc.

The basketball will be awesome, and rough. Even though they will win less, it will be better basketball and will be a huge step up in the competitive level.

 

[leftyjace]

What’s the best way to watch utes games if all I have is the roku setup?

Subscribing to FuboTV

 

[Jazzman12]

I really HATE saying this, but I really can’t fathom Utah beating BYU 10 straight times.

For perspective, when BYU was absolutely dominant in the Lavell era, if I’m not mistaken, they never beat Utah 10 straight times. The streak would get to 9 and then an inferior Utah team would rise up and win one. There was a much bigger gap in talent between the two teams back then and it was still hard for BYU to win 10 straight.

I think Saturday night is gonna be a damn dog fight.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I really HATE saying this, but I really can’t fathom Utah beating BYU 10 straight times.

For perspective, when BYU was absolutely dominant in the Lavell era, if I’m not mistaken, they never beat Utah 10 straight times. The streak would get to 9 and then an inferior Utah team would rise up and win one. There was a much bigger gap in talent between the two teams back then and it was still hard for BYU to win 10 straight.

I think Saturday night is gonna be a damn dog fight.

What?? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. There wasn’t a bigger talent gap back then


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[Jazzman12]

What?? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. There wasn’t a bigger talent gap back then


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If you think the Utah teams of the 80’s were anywhere near what BYU had, we’ll have to strongly disagree with each other. Utterly ridiculous take.

 

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What?? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. There wasn’t a bigger talent gap back then


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Are you 10 years old?

 

[fishonjazz]

What?? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. There wasn’t a bigger talent gap back then


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You should check the point differentials from back then vs this current streak.

 

[fishonjazz]

I really HATE saying this, but I really can’t fathom Utah beating BYU 10 straight times.

For perspective, when BYU was absolutely dominant in the Lavell era, if I’m not mistaken, they never beat Utah 10 straight times. The streak would get to 9 and then an inferior Utah team would rise up and win one. There was a much bigger gap in talent between the two teams back then and it was still hard for BYU to win 10 straight.

I think Saturday night is gonna be a damn dog fight.

I think it will be a good game like always but i would certainly pick the Utes to win saturday. They have extra preparation time and they are the much healthier team plus they were likely the better team to begin with before those two added advantages. (fwiw I dont think the extra prep time matters much but the injuries do.)
Hoping that some of the guys held out of the Arizona game were simply held out so that they would be sure to be ready for the utes. Like BYU figured that those weren't needed against Arizona or something. If they are actually hurt and still cant play this saturday then you add the multiple injuries to starters that happened in game against AZ and it is looking pretty dire for BYU. Hopefully the Nacua brothers will play. Hopefully Tooley (starting linebacker) will play. Hopefully the all american candidate kicker will play (jake oldroyd). I know that gunner romney (perhaps byu's best receiver) wont play. I know that one of their starting corners that got hurt at the beginning of the AZ game wont play (Ellis).
Also saw that BYU offensive MVP from last saturday (Neil Pau) is wearing a walking boot on his foot and has a bum ankle apparently (saw him limping in the game)

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I think Saturday night is gonna be a damn dog fight.

 

[Jazzman12]

I think it will be a good game like always but i would certainly pick the Utes to win saturday. They have extra preparation time and they are the much healthier team plus they were likely the better team to begin with before those two added advantages. (fwiw I dont think the extra prep time matters much but the injuries do.)
Hoping that some of the guys held out of the Arizona game were simply held out so that they would be sure to be ready for the utes. Like BYU figured that those weren't needed against Arizona or something. If they are actually hurt and still cant play this saturday then you add the multiple injuries to starters that happened in game against AZ and it is looking pretty dire for BYU. Hopefully the Nacua brothers will play. Hopefully Tooley (starting linebacker) will play. Hopefully the all american candidate kicker will play (jake oldroyd). I know that gunner romney (perhaps byu's best receiver) wont play. I know that one of their starting corners that got hurt at the beginning of the AZ game wont play (Ellis).
Also saw that BYU offensive MVP from last saturday (Neil Pau) is wearing a walking boot on his foot and has a bum ankle apparently (saw him limping in the game)

All of this is spot on. I expect to see both Nacua brothers and your LB on Saturday. I think BYU could have played everybody vs Zona and blew their doors off, but they didn’t need to. No sense showing your hand the week before the rivalry.

If Utah does manage to win #10, I think it will be due to Charlie Brewer. In fact, I think Utah has finally made MAJOR strides in the QB department that aren’t getting talked about enough. Just a few years ago, Jason Shelley led Utah to a rivalry win. After that, he transferred to Utah State, flamed out, and is now at an FCS school. Early on in the PAC 12 years, Utah was dependent on Jr. College transfers and 2 star recruits to play QB. During fall camp this year, they had 3 4 star QB’s and Charlie Brewer taking reps. Cam Rising looks good to go behind Brewer and the 4 Star Freshman Costelli might end up being the best of the bunch when his time comes.

With Whitt, you ALWAYS know that there will be a top notch Defense and Running game every season. It’s as constant as the sun rising in the east. If Utah has FINALLY figured out how to successfully recruit and develop QB’s, we could be in for some next level ****.

 

[fishonjazz]

All of this is spot on. I expect to see both Nacua brothers and your LB on Saturday. I think BYU could have played everybody vs Zona and blew their doors off, but they didn’t need to. No sense showing your hand the week before the rivalry.

If Utah does manage to win #10, I think it will be due to Charlie Brewer. In fact, I think Utah has finally made MAJOR strides in the QB department that aren’t getting talked about enough. Just a few years ago, Jason Shelley led Utah to a rivalry win. After that, he transferred to Utah State, flamed out, and is now at an FCS school. Early on in the PAC 12 years, Utah was dependent on Jr. College transfers and 2 star recruits to play QB. During fall camp this year, they had 3 4 star QB’s and Charlie Brewer taking reps. Cam Rising looks good to go behind Brewer and the 4 Star Freshman Costelli might end up being the best of the bunch when his time comes.

With Whitt, you ALWAYS know that there will be a top notch Defense and Running game every season. It’s as constant as the sun rising in the east. If Utah has FINALLY figured out how to successfully recruit and develop QB’s, we could be in for some next level ****.

Agreed. I think both nacuas, cooley (the LB), pau, and even the kicker (oldroyd) will all play. And I think that Charlie Brewer is legit and definitely the best QB in this game.
The only real edge I can give BYU is in special teams. Their kicker and punter both might end up all americans. Utah has the better QB, better O-line, better tight end (right now anyway. I think BYU has a tight end that will be better than kuithe at some point) better D-line and probably better secondary (especially after the injury in the arizona game.). As a group byu might have better linebackers but utah has the best linebacker. I dont know enough about utahs wide receivers and BYU does have a really good group so maybe BYU has the advantage there. I think byu running back (algier) is the best on either team but I dont really know utahs running backs and I could be wrong. (if the utes had their running back from last year then this wouldn't be a discussion).
Utes get the coaching edge as always ever since Urban.