2021 NBA Draft Preview (new thread)

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Stylistically, yeah. The only question I'd have is whether Springer can play up. We can at least imagine Grimes as something of a Royce O'Neale/Miye Oni type (or at least toggle up to SF in certain situations). But Grimes is already at the lower edge of the height/wingspan for this hope. Springer's an inch shorter (I'm not counting on him growing).

He's a quarter of an inch less long in total wingspan with 2'' lower on the standing reach. Springer has a bigger frame at a younger age. I think they should be able to play about the same size. Both going to be undersized as wing defenders and will have to be able to play tight on bigger players to disrupt them.

 

[Hekate]

I think I am going to make a final top 60 big board if I have the time with some hot takes.

 

[idiot]

We shall see… will be an interesting week.

Yep, but it may drag on to two or three weeks, given the way free agency sometimes plays out.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Ummm . . . it sure could be.

This past offseason especially would be really hard to beat. The prior offseason was at least okay on paper (I liked the Conley trade, and liked the Ed Davis and Jeff Green signings in theory). But last year:

(1) traded down in the draft to pick a center that would have been available in the middle of the second round, getting bamboozled by the Knicks in the process and passing on at least two dudes that everyone was screaming for them to draft that could’ve helped in the Clippers series;
(2) offloading a bunch picks to undo prior decisions that did not pan out;
(3) paying a backup center the full MLE after drafting a center (using our two most valuable offseason assets on true 5s when we have Gobert on the roster);
(4) messing up the math so we’re in the tax;
(5) sending a pick for Matt freaking Thomas (that was the deadline, but still).

Locking down Don and Rudy was important, but we overpaid Rudy and conceded the player option to Don.

It would be really hard to beat that. That’s the kind of offseason that gets a lead executive fired even with a No. 1 seed.

 

[homeytennis]

This past offseason especially would be really hard to beat. The prior offseason was at least okay on paper (I liked the Conley trade, and liked the Ed Davis and Jeff Green signings in theory). But last year:

(1) traded down in the draft to pick a center that would have been available in the middle of the second round, getting bamboozled by the Knicks in the process and passing on at least two dudes that everyone was screaming for them to draft that could’ve helped in the Clippers series;
(2) offloading a bunch picks to undo prior decisions that did not pan out;
(3) paying a backup center the full MLE after drafting a center (using our two most valuable offseason assets on true 5s when we have Gobert on the roster);
(4) messing up the math so we’re in the tax;
(5) sending a pick for Matt freaking Thomas (that was the deadline, but still).

Locking down Don and Rudy was important, but we overpaid Rudy and conceded the player option to Don.

It would be really hard to beat that. That’s the kind of offseason that gets a lead executive fired even with a No. 1 seed.

I have the feeling that the Favs signing and the Matty Ice trades were political decisions and not basketball ones.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think a contender would absolutely be willing to give up a late first for a short-term Ingles rental.

Any team could use an Ingles.

Lakers surely would, though I'd hate to see Ingles end up there.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

I think it’s more likely we draft a PG than a wing. The biggest reason is there is more PG quality where we are drafting than wing quality. Ayo, McBride, etc. IMO, the alternative is reaching for a wing like Jones.

I’d rather Ayo or McBride than Jones at 30. If we want Jones, we should trade back and get an asset out of it, maybe a second for next year when we currently have no picks? And I am fine if Jones is the guy, I just don’t think you draft him at 30.

 

[LoPo]

How Joe’s name keep coming up… If they move him then just go ahead and trade me too.

If we dump Joe Ingles just so we can overpay Mike Conley, the front office is going to start losing fans.

I, personally, would be so incredibly disappointed.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

ESPN's new mock draft looks pretty good. I'd bet it's fairly accurate compared to some others. I'll post a few snippets. If the Jazz could actually pull off getting Jaden Springer at #30, I'd be pretty stoked. He's a lottery-caliber athlete, imo.

Top 10

1. Cade (Det)
2. Green (Hou)
3. Mobley (Cle)
4. Suggs (Tor)
5. Barnes (Orl)
6. Bouknight (Okc)
7. Kuminga (GSW)
8. Moody (Orl)
9. Wagner (Sac)
10. Giddey (NOLA)

15. Trey Murphy (Was)

26. Josh Primo (Den)

30. Jaden Springer (Uta)

 

[Hekate]

1 - Evan Mobley 2 - Cade Cunningham 3 - Jalen Green 4 - Scottie Barnes 5 - Jalen Suggs 6 - Josh Giddey 7 - Keon Johnson 8 - Jonathan Kuminga 9 - Kai Jones 10 - Ziaire Williams 11 - Usman Garuba 12 - Sharife Cooper 13 - Alperen Şengün 14 - Franz Wagner 15 - Cameron Thomas 16 - Moses Moody 17 - James Bouknight 18 - Davion Mitchell 19 - Jalen Johnson 20 - Jaden Springer 21 - Trey Murphy 22 - Tre Mann 23 - Miles Mcbride 24 - Chris Duarte 25 - Corey Kispert 26 - Jared Butler 27 - JT Thor 28 - Nah’shon Hyland 29 - Ayo Dosunmu 30 - Josh Christopher

31 - Vrenz Bleijenbergh 32 - Kessler Edwards 33 - Quentin Grimes 34 - Isaiah Todd 35 - Day’Ron Sharpe 36 - Josh Primo 37 - Isaiah Jackson 38 - BJ Boston 39 - Jeremiah Robinson 40 - Rokas Jokubaitis 41 - Joel Ayayi 42 - Herbert Jones 43 - Filip Petrusev 44 - Isaiah Livers 45 - Austin Reaves 46 - Greg Brown 47 - Neemias Queeta 48 - Charles Bassey 49 - RaiQuan Gray 50 - Joe Wieskamp 51 - Jason Preston 52 - Aaron Henry 53 - Sandro Mamukelashvili 54 - David Johnson 55 - Juhann Begarin 56 - Daishien Nix 57 - EJ Onu 58 - Amar Sylla 59 - Trendon Watford 60 - Santi Aldama

Don't ask me about it. I think at some point I had Raiquan in 3 spots. That was hella more exhausting than I thought it would be. Gotta keep a running one for next year. Late second round is so fluid.

Edit: I think I also edited 3 times after posting this.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Bleacher Report saying Jazz are willing to move Joe Ingles to clear space to re-sign Conley. I guess that means the Jazz have gotten a positive sign from Conley that he wants to come back.

"The Utah Jazz are known to be one of the few teams actually searching to move playoff-tested talent. Retaining Mike Conley is an offseason priority, sources said, and the Jazz have held numerous discussions with teams around the league about offloading salary to create room for Conley in free agency."
"League personnel most often mention Joe Ingles as the Jazz wing to watch, and Bojan Bogdanovic and Royce O'Neale are also considered available for trade as Utah narrows its focus towards building a contender around Donovan Mitchell. The Jazz are also open to discuss trading their No. 30 pick, sources said."

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Our 1 true need is length and athleticism on the perimeter. So the jazz will probably pick McBride.

Dosunmu has some length and athleticism too.