2021 NBA Draft Preview (new thread)

[Handlogten's Heros]

TRADE SZN

Nice work by Memphis there… was wondering what they’d do with the cap space. One year rental of Bledsoe… NO should have snaked Allen out of there at least… they have a billion 2 guards.

 

[KqWIN]

Oh I think its very much the opposite... on draft night picks after the 20s range are way cheaper than during the season. Getting a future first has some trade value at the deadline, but that pick is going to come with protections and has the chance that it won't deliver any value for 3-4 years.

You can comp it with Udoka but Minnesota is likely glad they picked McDaniels instead of having a mediocre future pick... same with Bane and Memphis. If we offer #30 for one of those guys is the team biting on that offer? Last year Boston swapped two future seconds and salary dumped Enes Kanter for #30 who became Desmond Bane... guessing they want that one back.

Maybe…I think fans definitely overrate draft picks as a whole, but fans don’t matter it’s FO’s and you’re right, teams do tend to trade out of the late first often.

I still don’t see it as a sign of weakness to not pick. Trading into the future keeps your asset, and if you’re correct that value is lowest during draft day than you’re increasing your value by rolling it over.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I thought JV was good for Memphis. Interesting

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He was but he’s a floor raiser. Adams may find himself a bit.

The fit with JV and Zion is still wonky… NO is gonna do something dumb with that cap space.

 

[Avery]

Memphis is going to surprise some people next year - but it shouldn't be a surprise if you've been paying attention to them.

 

[LoPo]

He was but he’s a floor raiser. Adams may find himself a bit.

The fit with JV and Zion is still wonky… NO is gonna do something dumb with that cap space.

NOLA makes out like bandits.

JV makes $14 this year and is expiring. Bledsoe and Adams combine to make $35 this year and $38 next year or $21 if Memphis waived Bledsoe.

All to move up seven spots to #10 and a protected 2022 pick?

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe…I think fans definitely overrate draft picks as a whole, but fans don’t matter it’s FO’s and you’re right, teams do tend to trade out of the late first often.

I still don’t see it as a sign of weakness to not pick. Trading into the future keeps your asset, and if you’re correct that value is lowest during draft day than you’re increasing your value by rolling it over.

But you are also trading it on draft day... so not sure you are capturing any difference in value. I'd say projecting draft classes is basically impossible a couple years out and after the top 15. So any improvement in the asset would need to be captured by moving up at least 5-10 spots to capture the lost year or using it in a win now trade at the deadline. So you'd have to look at those types of trades to see if they panned out.

I agree there is some value loss by driving the car off the lot... there is a potential big gain though if the player shows they are decent in a limited window. think Kuzma his rookie year.

The reason I think its weak is the same reason I think DL was a coward for trading a ton of second rounders for cash and future second rounders because "there weren't players they liked at that point in the draft".... then your scouting isn't good enough. Every year there are guys after that pick that become good players. You defer the pick it is really about being indecisive and avoiding a black mark on your resume.

 

[Avery]

NOLA makes out like bandits.

JV makes $14 this year and is expiring. Bledsoe and Adams combine to make $35 this year and $38 next year or $21 if Memphis waived Bledsoe.

All to move up seven spots to #10 and a protected 2022 pick?

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My bet is NOLA probably re-ups Ball and puts themselves into a position to maybe go get someone like Lowry/Derozan.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Awful trade IMO for Memphis.

 

[LoPo]

Awful trade IMO for Memphis.

I agree. Terrible

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[Handlogten's Heros]

NOLA makes out like bandits.

JV makes $14 this year and is expiring. Bledsoe and Adams combine to make $35 this year and $38 next year or $21 if Memphis waived Bledsoe.

All to move up seven spots to #10 and a protected 2022 pick?

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Adams may pick things up this year... Bledsoe is a little under-rated at this point. Memphis needed to use their excess space... jumping from 17 to 10 is significant imo. Adding another first is good too.

They bought low on both guys... they sold high on JV. I don't love it from their perspective but I hate it from NOLA's perspective. What happens if they aren't the highest bidder on Lowry? They may not have to waive cap holds on Ball and Hart now but will have to waive the hold on one of them.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Awful trade IMO for Memphis.

You hate Bledsoe so I expect that you'd hate it.

Memphis now has three first next year and some serious cap flexibility going forward. They needed to land another blue chip talent... not a great chance of that... but better at 10 than 17. Adams for JV is a step back.

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a follow up move here.

 

[LoPo]

You hate Bledsoe so I expect that you'd hate it.

Memphis now has three first next year and some serious cap flexibility going forward. They needed to land another blue chip talent... not a great chance of that... but better at 10 than 17. Adams for JV is a step back.

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a follow up move here.

Even if Bledsoe is decent, he's not worth his contract. $20 million a year for a guy who has never really played all that well in the postseason? I don't dislike Adams, but I do think JV is better than Adams. And his contract is so much better.

New Orleans can now build around Ingram and Zion. They have so much space. And they didn't even sacrifice good or many picks to make this deal.
They could go out and sign John Collins to a max contract.
They could trade their ton of picks with Ingram for Beal THEN sign Lowry.
They could go after Lillard without having to send a bad contract back.

All so Memphis can add an average C and an overpriced bench defense PG and move up 7 spots?

Bad trade for Memphis.