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2022 NBA Draft Thread: We Going to Have a Pick! (lmao jk)

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Maybe, but a guard who can get 80% of his shots at the rim at the college level (spacing is terrible) from largely dribble drives is very unique. There's just something to be said about a guy who can get in the paint at will despite having no jumper in a league where there's usually 2-3 people in or right outside the paint at all times.

There's definitely a lot of work needed there to get him some kind of shot. But he was simply on another level from most of the players who played at the combine scrimmages and he looked like he could be developed into some kind of secondary playmaker.

Keep in mind Herb Jones didnt start shooting 3's regularly (and he was an awful 3pt shooter on very limited attempts before that) until his senior season (age 22 season), and he was an awful FT shooter until his senior season. Of course Seabron is a guard/wing/slasher and Jones is 4 who is far better defensively, so the need to prove his shooting is much less than Seabron's. There's also nothing mechanically broken on his jumper either. I think he's just one of those dudes who never bothered to develop his jumper/never had professional training because he has an insane advantage as a driver.

He has a lot of untapped potential. I think he played a post-grad year then red-shirted. He played on a bad NC State team with bad coaching. His game is 100% natural feel at this point. Obviously has a lot of bust potential too.
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Meh....when something unlikely happens, like Herb Jones being a decent shooter, that doesn't make me believe the next case is more likely. You could use that logic to trick yourself into thinking every other terrible shooter can be a passable shooter in the league, but we know that's not the case. Same goes for any other skill. That's how you get into Fergo level comparisons....In hindsight, Herb Jones was under drafted because he had extremely good indicators of his hustle/defensive activity. That is a consistent predictor that has shown it's worth over time. I could always be wrong, but I don't see many strong indicators for Seaborn. His rebounding is good, but the rest of his offensive game is a major red flag and I'd be shocked if he can stay on an NBA floor. He looks like the guy who makes it impossible to watch college basketball because he doesn't have offensive skill.
 
KqWIN said:
Meh....when something unlikely happens, like Herb Jones being a decent shooter, that doesn't make me believe the next case is more likely. You could use that logic to trick yourself into thinking every other terrible shooter can be a passable shooter in the league, but we know that's not the case. Same goes for any other skill. That's how you get into Fergo level comparisons....In hindsight, Herb Jones was under drafted because he had extremely good indicators of his hustle/defensive activity. That is a consistent predictor that has shown it's worth over time. I could always be wrong, but I don't see many strong indicators for Seaborn. His rebounding is good, but the rest of his offensive game is a major red flag and I'd be shocked if he can stay on an NBA floor. He looks like the guy who makes it impossible to watch college basketball because he doesn't have offensive skill.
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You are likely right, but he's a guy worth betting on at the end of the 1st/early 2nd round, and especially in the 40's and beyond.
 
The adage that rookies don't contribute to winning is not as true anymore. It seems to me more and more rookies find ways to improve quickly over much shorter span of time. Tools and technology available make it much easier to improve things like shooting for rookies.
 
Hekate said:
The adage that rookies don't contribute to winning is not as true anymore. It seems to me more and more rookies find ways to improve quickly over much shorter span of time. Tools and technology available make it much easier to improve things like shooting for rookies.
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I think the thing with that adage is that it's more based on coaches than their ability.
 
Locked On did an interview with Jason Hart (GLeague Ignite coach). He compared Dyson Daniels to Thabo Sefolosha with some scoring/playmaking.
 
Jean Montero is a nice, young PG prospect that could be available towards the mid-2nd round. He's the same size as Raul Neto and has a nice well-rounded skillset that should enable him to be a stable, long-term backup with potential to play additional minutes. He was once projected as a solid 1st-rd prospect and has a bit more speed and upside compared to a guy like Nemhard, imo, even though he isn't as big. Doesn't turn 19 until the end of this month.


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KqWIN said:
Meh....when something unlikely happens, like Herb Jones being a decent shooter, that doesn't make me believe the next case is more likely. You could use that logic to trick yourself into thinking every other terrible shooter can be a passable shooter in the league, but we know that's not the case. Same goes for any other skill. That's how you get into Fergo level comparisons....In hindsight, Herb Jones was under drafted because he had extremely good indicators of his hustle/defensive activity. That is a consistent predictor that has shown it's worth over time. I could always be wrong, but I don't see many strong indicators for Seaborn. His rebounding is good, but the rest of his offensive game is a major red flag and I'd be shocked if he can stay on an NBA floor. He looks like the guy who makes it impossible to watch college basketball because he doesn't have offensive skill.
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The sad part is Tony Jones repeatedly said that Herb was someone we were interested in but we moved #30 so we missed the chance to draft him.

Would have been nice if we drafted Desmond Bane or Jaden McDaniels who both went right after we took Udoka…
 
Not sure if he’s been mentioned yet…but how about Kris Murray out of Iowa? Ranked 93 on DX but has impressive numbers. 6’8 forward with high 3 point rate, high rebounding, and high stocks. Should definitely be drafted.
 
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